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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
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Posted: September 27 2005 at 15:47 |
ian_b wrote:
trippy drugs are ok id say. its the happy drugs you want to stay away from because you may end up being happy only durring the times you are taking these drugs. So i smoke weed take acid and shroom. i wont do ecstacy or speed even though i have tried them. i think the drugs i do have more possitives than negatives IMO. I never take huge doses so they are generally safe. |
I've done a fair amount of hallucinogens in my life, and while I'm prepared to believe they have done me less harm than tobacco - physically - I think as a rule of thumb 'if it tastes good or feels good, it's probably bad for you'
The rule applies to illicit drugs, food and drink...
Moderation may be fine for most things, but it's worth remembering that even 1 - 3 cigarettes a day makes you three times more likely to develop lung cancer than a non smoker. Cannabis has potentially even more carcinogens. If the research is to be believed.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Wolf Spider
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Joined: August 04 2005
Location: Poland
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Posted: September 29 2005 at 11:59 |
To
all you drug defensors: Today a cuople of parents were sentenced -
mother for 3,5 year and father for life senetnce. They`ve beaten up
their child every time it was screaming and tied it to bed... The
tragedy was yet to come... one day they were so stoned that the father
reaped his child (4 month old boy) and then beated him to death. Police
found more amphetamine in their appartment. Psychologists agree that
the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........
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Doesburger
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 03:55 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
To all you drug defensors: Today a cuople of parents were sentenced - mother for 3,5 year and father for life senetnce. They`ve beaten up their child every time it was screaming and tied it to bed... The tragedy was yet to come... one day they were so stoned that the father reaped his child (4 month old boy) and then beated him to death. Police found more amphetamine in their appartment. Psychologists agree that the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........
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Congratulations! So the equation is : Mental aberration + drugs = Rapist/murderer. Very convenient and easy! I've got another one for you : Crazy + drugs = Crazy. or Crazy - drugs = Crazy. You must be working for the Department of Mis-Information/Manipulation or something. Thinking and watching tv/listening to radio/reading newspapers/drowning in media are NOT compatible!
Yves
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 05:47 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
Psychologists agree that
the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........
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Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand?
Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t
think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take
drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 06:12 |
That's a really poor argument "against "drugs"".
How many men beat their wifes, after drinking alcohol?
Probably more than people on amphetamines (i'm not advocate amphetamines use, although i've never tried, i think there are very dangerous)
It doesn't mean that alcohol automatically leads to violence!
I also agree that in some psycho social circumstances, hard drug use can lead to some
Terrible acts. But it does mean much, if just that these drugs are dangerous. But you’ll never see violent acts with MJ while there are very common with alcohol (but in this case, alcohol just reveals psychological problems, or is often simply an alibi and exagerates violence)
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 06:25 |
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Wolf Spider wrote:
Psychologists agree that
the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........
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Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand?
Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t
think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take
drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen
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And what about people on legal drugs, like anti depressant, anxyolitics, Prozac, etc...? There are very dangerous! They drive cars for example, and the mix with a little alcohol can have very bad effects.
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Doesburger
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 06:27 |
Wolf Spider wrote:
Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand? Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen |
Simply parroting what so-called "experts" make you want to believe, does NOT make it true. Is that so difficult to understand?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 07:02 |
Yes, on one hand the government diabolizes weed and on another hand, allows sales of dangerous drugs to satisfy pharmaceutical trusts. Where's honesty?
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Borealis
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Posted: September 30 2005 at 19:54 |
^ I agree with both of you guys.
You know, I don't remember ever hearing about a man killing someone while taking his car stoned. But, about a drunk man...
If you want to make an unbiaised opinion about drugs, don't listen to the medias. They are maid, paid and trained to make you hate drugs.
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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greenback
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 01:50 |
drugs, abortion and sex issues have always had 2 poles: there always have been a fight between the good and the bad. that's why the opinions are 50-50! AMAZING! i believe each opinion does not come from the pure reason!
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goose
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 06:34 |
greenback wrote:
drugs, abortion and sex issues have always had 2 poles: there always have been a fight between the good and the bad. that's why the opinions are 50-50! AMAZING! i believe each opinion does not come from the pure reason!
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Throgh
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 05:15 |
no drugs - just fun
what man are you if you need any kind of stimulation to life. Why do you need this s**t stuff? life is brutal, mom doesn't love you, or girl/boyfriend's gone?
I'm very angry if sbd want to tell me "Oh drugs are so cool and harmless for me - I just can control it, I'm a hero"
I'm not saint, but DRUGS ARE S**T AT ALL and destroy you,
OK drinking too. But compare strenght of addiction of both.
one more time
MY opinion - no drugs at all
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don't worry
be happy
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Throgh
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 05:22 |
man who paint this did not use drugs
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don't worry
be happy
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Doesburger
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 05:22 |
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proger
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Location: Israel
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 06:01 |
no drugs, no smoke...
only nice and good prog
i am such a good boy!
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...live for tomorrow...
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Throgh
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Location: Poland
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 06:26 |
I have daughter 15 yo and I do not want her taking drugs-
that's why I am so emphatic.
Except this I'm liberal - your life, your choice.
good luck
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don't worry
be happy
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