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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2005 at 17:33
Definitely not with me. My brother, who is 10 years older than I am, started collecting prog when he was 15 or so, so I literally grew up with it, since he was my hero when I was a kid.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2005 at 17:38
one of the reasons I love prog is the same reason why my mom always hated it: you can't dance to it

anyway, I'm sure there is a link between personality and taste in music. I always enjoyed rock music, but when I listened to DT for the first time, I was instantly hooked. likewise, when I first listened to PT, I loved every single note of each song, discovering  that Stephen Wilson's style of psychodelic prog rock/metal was exactly the kind of music I loved most.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2005 at 17:48

Originally posted by el_Sethro el_Sethro wrote:

one of the reasons I love prog is the same reason why my mom always hated it: you can't dance to it

anyway, I'm sure there is a link between personality and taste in music. I always enjoyed rock music, but when I listened to DT for the first time, I was instantly hooked. likewise, when I first listened to PT, I loved every single note of each song, discovering  that Stephen Wilson's style of psychodelic prog rock/metal was exactly the kind of music I loved most.

Not true!!!! I can dance to it, and very well too!!! I have even danced to tracks like "Quasarsphere" from "Inventions for Electric Guitar" by Manuel Göttsching!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 06:12
Originally posted by Fearless Fearless wrote:

I've just taken Jung's test at www.humanmetrics.com, and it says I am an "INFJ".  This is fairly accurate, but there a parts of the description that I don't fit.

I encourage you all to take this test.  (it is the first bullet "Jung Typology Test")



I took the test and it tells I'm Counselor Idealist (iNFj) too - intresting.

I really do see a lot in that description that fits me. Still, I'm a bit suprised.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 07:24
Hey that Jung test was pretty spooky stuff

Here is a quote from what I had written earlier in this thread

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:


These are all questions that I do not need to know the why of- I just know


And here is a quote from the typelogic.com site

INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

In case you haven't figured out, the humanmetrics site test placed me as an INTJ.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 08:41
Well that test is interesting, and i am also with the crowd, INFJ, which is interesting. Not sure how accurately i answered some of the questions though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 09:04

INTP.

don't know what it means, but Jung, Descartes, Einstein, Newton, Pascal, Socrates and Rick Moranis where too, so i'm in good compagnie (aside for the fact the only living one in this list is Rick moranis)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 09:15
Opposites attract. I am quiet, but I like my progressive music loud.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:27

Originally posted by Dreamer Dreamer wrote:

Well that test is interesting, and i am also with the crowd, INFJ, which is interesting. Not sure how accurately i answered some of the questions though

So far, all of us who have reported are IN's , so maybe that has something to do with liking Progressive Rock.  I can certainly see a correlation in that we are all introverts, prefer to have quiet/think about the very important things, and have deep thoughts and emotions.

Someone who is more 'socially active' (some types of extroverts) and at the same time is less intuitive, is less likely to enjoy thought-provoking music, maybe because they are more apt to party, and go out in public (small attention span).  Some prefer to live for the moment and don't find time to contemplate themselves.

I would be interested to see what % of us progheads are INJ's/INP's, compared to society as a whole.  Less than 2 percent of the human population are INJ's, but I would be willing to bet that more than half of the members here are in this category.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:31
I think the "F" part of the equation is important... NF, regardless of the I/E or J/P affiliation, are generally the most "compassionate" type.

INFJ is extremely rare, I've only had the pleasure of knowing one other in person..  it was quite shocking to see so many get that here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:33

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:

Hey that Jung test was pretty spooky stuff

Here is a quote from what I had written earlier in this thread

Originally posted by cobb cobb wrote:


These are all questions that I do not need to know the why of- I just know


And here is a quote from the typelogic.com site

INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

In case you haven't figured out, the humanmetrics site test placed me as an INTJ.

That is weird.  I had the same experience the first time I took a personality test.  I was shocked to see that there were other people as crazy as me, and the desciptions were spot on.  I find myself having the same situations as were explained (ie. "knowing" things about people without an explanation)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:36

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

I think the "F" part of the equation is important... NF, regardless of the I/E or J/P affiliation, are generally the most "compassionate" type.

INFJ is extremely rare, I've only had the pleasure of knowing one other in person..  it was quite shocking to see so many get that here.

Yes, the "F" part is more emotional, while the "T" would be more analytical.  You're lucky to have met another "INFJ".  I'd never even heard of one until today.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:37
  Just *discovering* that others existed was one of the strangest things ever...  I always thought I was some sort of freak-boy. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 14:41

^Me too.  I've always felt alone, and actually struggled with depression for a while (a couple years ago) until I finally snapped out of it.  I was suprised at the list of famous "INFJ's".  I never would have guessed that Mel Gibson was one.

 

Famous INFJs:

Nathan, prophet of Israel
Aristophanes
Chaucer
Goethe
Robert Burns, Scottish poet

U.S. Presidents:
Martin Van Buren
James Earl "Jimmy" Carter

Nathaniel Hawthorne
Fanny Crosby, (blind) hymnist
Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Fred McMurray (My Three Sons)
Shirley Temple Black, child actor, ambassador
Martin Luther King, Jr., civil rights leader, martyr
James Reston, newspaper reporter
Shirley McClain (Sweet Charity, ...)
Piers Anthony, author ("Xanth" series)
Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)
Tom Selleck
John Katz, critic, author
Paul Stookey (Peter, Paul and Mary)
U. S. Senator Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL)
Billy Crystal
Garry Trudeau (Doonesbury)
Nelson Mandela
Mel Gibson
Carrie Fisher
Nicole Kidman
Jamie Foxx
Tori May

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:05
*snickers*  Mother Theresa...  well, that actually does make a good deal of sense.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 15:34
I blame the learned over any innate quality you may possess. I am highly eccectric, but why does that have any bearing on whether you listen to prog? Alot of eccentricity can be channeled into other areas like painting and theatre. Why music?

Well, for me, it was my parents who did it, inadvertantly, mind you. They were very strict Christians and did NOT allow me to indulge in any forms of rock music as a child. However, on the opposite side of this they DID put me into piano lessons at an early age and had me listening to all the greats, of course, and the charismatic music of pentacostalism (highly energetic soulful gospel) as well as the great hymns of the past couple hundred years.

I was offered to skip a grade and change schools to the art school in my city. I declined, siting a loss of friends, so really, I had one foot in genius and one foot in mediocrity. I feel that I've retained that certain balance for my entire life. I tried desparately to not be the brown noser teachers pet. I remember purposefully answering questions wrong so I wouldn't get perfect on tests. I did particularly well in public school.

So what happened? As a teenager I rebelled. I snuck rock and roll records into the house and listened to them without my parents knowledge but this was the 90s, so it was Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam. As far as my parents were concerned, it was devil music. Something happened though, and I grew tired of these bands and almost completely discarded them all (Pearl Jam I still like though) and I graduated to prog around 1997. Perhaps it was the drugs, perhaps something else, but when I first put on The Dark Side of the Moon, something in my brain was tweaked, and it allowed me to go back to the music of my earlier childhood - classical. And from there it was Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, full speed ahead, you know? You know what it felt like, man, it was like these were the bands I was SUPPOSED to have been listening to as a teenager but didn't. They were like long lost, yet future undiscovered friends.

To a degree, I believe I possess what appears to be some form of musical clairvoyance. I don't know how to explain this except to tell you that, you know how you listen to a record for the first time and it's a great and wonderful experience, well it's like that with me...except that I feel in my mind's eye that I've already heard it before, like in a past life, or... in a dream or something. I know that sounds strange, but before my folks really started to become awfully strict, they themselves listened to prog in the 70s. Perhaps even while I was in the womb - it becomes some sort of innate thing, ingrained in the very fibres of your being, perhaps right in your dna, I don't know, but it's something like that.

But like I say, that's just me, I don't know if other people are so innately prone to prog and in fact, may like progressive rock more because of their upbringing, NOT their disposistion.

So really, what happened with me was that, in effect it was my strict parents who got me into prog simply because I had been required to play piano and study the greats as a child! I had a foreknowledge of prog! Thanks mom!!! (NOTE: This perhaps my explain why I feel I've heard prog songs before, as certain melodies and riffs may have been lifted from the greats, and so it's somewhat of a prog echo)

My parents feel slightly checkmated by this (I mean, come on, my dad tells me that he felt so heavily convicted about listening to rock and roll when he was a hippie cum born again Christian that it basically killed him to see his son listening to it) so I don't really bring it up, but I guess they are happy I'm not into alt-rock anymore (as am I!!!)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 17:55
Originally posted by Fearless Fearless wrote:

I would be interested to see what % of us progheads are INJ's/INP's, compared to society as a whole.  Less than 2 percent of the human population are INJ's, but I would be willing to bet that more than half of the members here are in this category.

I took the Meyers Briggs test 10 years ago and again last year. Both times I came out INTJ.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:49
Originally posted by Gaston Gaston wrote:

I blame the learned over any innate quality you may possess. I am highly eccectric, but why does that have any bearing on whether you listen to prog? Alot of eccentricity can be channeled into other areas like painting and theatre. Why music?

Well, for me, it was my parents who did it, inadvertantly, mind you. They were very strict Christians and did NOT allow me to indulge in any forms of rock music as a child. However, on the opposite side of this they DID put me into piano lessons at an early age and had me listening to all the greats, of course, and the charismatic music of pentacostalism (highly energetic soulful gospel) as well as the great hymns of the past couple hundred years.

I was offered to skip a grade and change schools to the art school in my city. I declined, siting a loss of friends, so really, I had one foot in genius and one foot in mediocrity. I feel that I've retained that certain balance for my entire life. I tried desparately to not be the brown noser teachers pet. I remember purposefully answering questions wrong so I wouldn't get perfect on tests. I did particularly well in public school.

So what happened? As a teenager I rebelled. I snuck rock and roll records into the house and listened to them without my parents knowledge but this was the 90s, so it was Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam. As far as my parents were concerned, it was devil music. Something happened though, and I grew tired of these bands and almost completely discarded them all (Pearl Jam I still like though) and I graduated to prog around 1997. Perhaps it was the drugs, perhaps something else, but when I first put on The Dark Side of the Moon, something in my brain was tweaked, and it allowed me to go back to the music of my earlier childhood - classical. And from there it was Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, full speed ahead, you know? You know what it felt like, man, it was like these were the bands I was SUPPOSED to have been listening to as a teenager but didn't. They were like long lost, yet future undiscovered friends.

To a degree, I believe I possess what appears to be some form of musical clairvoyance. I don't know how to explain this except to tell you that, you know how you listen to a record for the first time and it's a great and wonderful experience, well it's like that with me...except that I feel in my mind's eye that I've already heard it before, like in a past life, or... in a dream or something. I know that sounds strange, but before my folks really started to become awfully strict, they themselves listened to prog in the 70s. Perhaps even while I was in the womb - it becomes some sort of innate thing, ingrained in the very fibres of your being, perhaps right in your dna, I don't know, but it's something like that.

But like I say, that's just me, I don't know if other people are so innately prone to prog and in fact, may like progressive rock more because of their upbringing, NOT their disposistion.

So really, what happened with me was that, in effect it was my strict parents who got me into prog simply because I had been required to play piano and study the greats as a child! I had a foreknowledge of prog! Thanks mom!!! (NOTE: This perhaps my explain why I feel I've heard prog songs before, as certain melodies and riffs may have been lifted from the greats, and so it's somewhat of a prog echo)

My parents feel slightly checkmated by this (I mean, come on, my dad tells me that he felt so heavily convicted about listening to rock and roll when he was a hippie cum born again Christian that it basically killed him to see his son listening to it) so I don't really bring it up, but I guess they are happy I'm not into alt-rock anymore (as am I!!!)


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Thanks for that Gaston. Even though your story is unique, I think other people will be able to identify with parts of your story and perhaps better understand others, even themselves.

I have had this theory for some time which is to do with the amount of fluid in our bodies. There is this incredible relationship, IMO, between the creation of the earth and our bodies whereby there is a similar percentage of fluid on the earth as there is in our bodies. The effect of waves on the surface of the earth is part of the continual shaping and development of it. There are many associations between the way we should treat our own bodies and the way we should treat the earth as the body we live on.

Sound as you know, produces waves. I can imagine the developing child in the womb, sensing the waves, tiny vibrations of sound around him/her through the fluid the child is immersed in, penetrating through the body and being registered in the developing consciousness of the child. That feeling sometimes that certain sounds or a wall of sound goes 'straight through you' and the complex responses we have to it. It does at times seem like a deja vu type of experience.

Anyway, it is something that I would have liked to have investigated much more thoroughly, scientifically.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:53

Apparently I am in the IN field as well. Well thats what the test said I was.

I would also like to say, because I started the thread in the first place, that it has given me personally a warm fuzzy feelingthe way basically everyone on this thread has contributed and particularly some who have made the effort to reveal personal things about themselves. That there has been respect and encouragement towards one another in the posts, is a positive portrayal of humanity and is tantamount to trust and the development of meaningful relations and I think when we communicate like this we are revealing the better side of our natures.

Lets not start another hugging thread though. There can only ever be one of those.


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