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frenchie ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
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maybe there are some post rock bands missing from prog archives.
Explosions in the Sky A Silver Mount Zion 65 Days of Static Are these bands prog? Should they be included with other post rock bands like Sigur Ros and Godspeed You Black Emperor? I have noticed that the experimental/post rock section is quite empty and i am not sure whether The Mars Volta and Radiohead fit in there at all. They both belong under psych/space or art rock. |
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rushaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1140 |
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Really like Explosions in the Sky. Haven't heard the other
2. I agree though, if bands like Sigur Ros and Godspeed You Black
Emperor! are included, Explosions in the Sky are quite similar and at
least as good.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
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Why the hell would you sent rock through the post Mt Zion is a GYBE! offshoot and you forgot Do Say May Think. Fly Pan Am is also GYBE!-related. Yes they should be here! Is anyone to review them though. I will check out Explosion in The Sky
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Heptade ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 427 |
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Post rock is the modern name for prog rock. If you
call yourself a prog rock band, no one will take you seriously, except for aficionados, of course. Call yourself post rock, and all of a sudden you're cool and people play your CD at hipster parties. Sad, really. What's my point here? Dunno. I'll have to check out those three bands at the start of this thread. |
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NetsNJFan ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
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Ha ha prog is sooooooo uncool its sad. |
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frenchie ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
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65 Days of Static are british i think, they played at a pub in bristol just down the road from my mums work. I think Useful Idiot knows this band, their debut album "Fall of Math" is ok. Not the best in the genre.
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Hangedman ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
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Exhaust *cough* *cough*
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chorus of one ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 27 2004 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Uh no that's wrong. Have you ever heard post rock? ![]() |
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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For a good link about post-rock, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock
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PROGMAN ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 03 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 2664 |
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I didn't know that Heptade. Modern Prog is known as Post Rock.
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Andhi ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 20 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198 |
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I disagree. These bands aren't like traditional (symphonic?) prog rock. They're much more ambient. Most don't even have lyrics, or if they do - like Godspeed You! Black Emperor - they're in the form of samples rather than singing. There are more traditional prog bands around - and in fact, I read an article in the Guardian not so long ago that was arguing that prog's becoming more popular - such as Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings etc. Post rock isn't the new prog, it's just a new subgenre of it. |
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It's only knock and knowall, but I like it...
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Heptade ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 427 |
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Oh dear, opened myself up there, didn't I?
I meant if you consider prog rock as the very vague umbrella term under which all the sub genres new and old, ie post rock, symphonic, RIO, neo prog, etc, exist, a young band has been much better off not mentioning that they may consider themselves prog in any way, if they want to get to MTV...post rock is much more cool. However, the success of Mars Volta etc, in being proudly progressive may be changing that, and I couldn't be more happy. And yes, I've heard plenty of everything. Many of the "post rock" bands, ie Godspeed, Mogwai, are among my favourites. |
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con safo ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 17 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
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Definitely should be added. Explosions in The Sky is an excellent band. From Monument To Masses is another great post-rock band, check out the album The Impossible Leap in One Hundred Simple Steps
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Sweetnighter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 24 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1298 |
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I almost want to agree with those who say that post rock is prog. They
have some big differences, but the approach to the music is practically
the same. If i'm not mistaken, Mogwai once declared itself "prog
without capes". In some way, I admire that serious yet adventurous
approach to the music without the trolls and fairies and such.
Tortoise is another big post rock name. |
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Heptade ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 427 |
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Well, I just figured since there's some post rock on
this prog rock site, and people are here to talk about prog, then, evidence would suggest, post rock is prog? Really, I don't care, they could call it whatever they please, I'll like what tickles my fancy! But I still hold to the well-known point that "prog" is seen as a stigma in some circles, a fact we all try to overcome, when many of today's coolest bands are in fact quite progressive, but no one realizes it. There is a new terminology, which is fine with me- I'll listen to anything interesting. Call it what you like! |
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Poxx ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 03 2005 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 231 |
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It doesn't matter if it's not exactly like classic prog. It's still prog. Most don't have lyrics? There is alot of singing in post-rock. Check out Slint for example, most of their songs have lyrics, but not so much that it ruins the track(unlike Genesis for example). |
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Borealis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Neutral Zone Status: Offline Points: 599 |
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If Mars Volta is accepted as a post-rock band, then a lot of bands would also get in I guess, like Arcade Fire. |
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Vive le Québec libre!...
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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Yeah, I don't get classifying Radiohead and TMV as post-rock
either. In my opinion they'd fit under art-rock and space rock
respectively.
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spectral ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 04 2005 Location: Vatican City State Status: Offline Points: 1422 |
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Funny you should mention TMV as art-rock; they were featured in Filter magazine under a series of articles specifically on art rock. |
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con safo ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 17 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
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Definitely not. The Arcade Fire arent even close to TMV Edited by con safo |
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