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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:03

Do you have a fave PJ song then Frenchie?  State of Love and Trust is pretty cool.  There is also a track off Yield which opens remarkably like a tune off Led Zep IV.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:16
Black from "Ten" is my fav, although Yellow Ledbetter is a close second. I love the lyrics.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:17
Somehow this thread has made me listening to PJ's 'Ten' for the first time in many years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 17:07
Ten is a pretty unique record, even now - not that I've listened to it in its entirety for a long time though. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 18:05
wow i'm glad to see grunge isn't dead after all! Pearl Jam have something very special about them.

My favourite Pearl Jam track? God there are so many I Love. "I am Mine" gives me chills every time i hear it. i know what my favourites are and i wont list them cos it can go on for ages. I really cant choose a favourite.

I still need to get "No Code", i have been long searching for the full fold out version with polaroids, it got deleted and now they just have a crappy little fold out version thats reli thin and i wanna get the full version.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 18:23

I struggle with No Code, Binaural and Riot Act.  I really like Yield - that is a definite high point for me.  Ten and Vs are stunning though.  That opening riff on rearviewmirror is excellent.

I think PJ were the only band to have transcended the grunge scene, while remaining true to their music.  I put this down to their classic rock edge as opposed to the punkier side of the likes of Nirvana.  Not having serious drug problems or singers dying has also helped their longevity

I owe a lot to grunge; it stopped me listening to pap like Def Leppard, Cinderella and equally dreadful big hair metal/rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2005 at 19:31

Grunge was my first serious love in music, I was a lad of 11 years old. I still have a soft spot for it, although I cant think back on alice in chains without sniggering (one of the only bands which I really lost a taste for). Pearl Jam is the best grunge band, Nevermind (yes nirvana, its an awesome album but people just overrate nirvana so much nowadays people loose sight of how good that album actually is, amazing!) is the best grunge album, and my favourite grunge song is Limo Wreck by Soundgarden (even if it is kinda lame ). This is all only IMO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:02
One of the best,and sadly completely overlooked Grunge albums.was Sub Pop's Lonely Moans album.
Similar in style to another overlooked band,Das Damen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:15

Grunge was the path to good music!  I think a lot of people used it as a stepping stone to finding out about other genres.  I listened to grunge from 1991 to around early 1994.  I then discovered underground melodic hardcore and that was the end of grunge for me.  I still look back on the music with misty eyes;  especially when I hear early PJ songs, or watch the movie Singles.

I hear Gus Van Sant has made a movie which is kinda based on Kurt Cobain.  If there's a subject that sells sh*t, it's Cobain.  I bet if you made toilet paper with his face on it and charged £100/$100 a roll, people would buy it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:28

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

One of the best,and sadly completely overlooked Grunge albums.was Sub Pop's Lonely Moans album.
Similar in style to another overlooked band,Das Damen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 05:11

Try get hold of some Malfunkshun (they only had one album) - I severely doubt it's in print and like a fool I deleted the MP3s I had but that's probably the most historically important proto grunge album there is, although it's a mile away from anything any other grunge bands did.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 10:09
Didn't realise there were so many Grunge bands. I've Heard NIRVANA, SOUNDGARDEN and STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, Scott Wieland is now fronting VELVET REVOLVER.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 12:23
Originally posted by PROGMAN PROGMAN wrote:

Didn't realise there were so many Grunge bands. I've Heard NIRVANA, SOUNDGARDEN and STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, Scott Wieland is now fronting VELVET REVOLVER.


Before the major labels snapped-up most of the bands and then spat them out,there were 2 independent labels that had the lions-share of the Grunge bands.Sub-Pop being the more well-known label.It's rosta included
Nirvana,Mudhoney,Tad and at least 20 others.The other,lesser-known label was called Amphetamine Reptile (Am Rep').The bands on this label were Halo of Flies,The Cows,Jesus Lizard and the amazing God Bullies.

Sub-Pop got the fame in respect of Nirvana's global popularity,but when I saw Nirvana,second on the bill to Mudhoney in 1990,nobody had an inkling of what was to come.Early Nirvana sounded (Live at least)like a perfunctory Stooges/Sabs tribute band.I must admit,and it may sound like sour grapes but,many excellent bands,instead of having their profile lifted by Nirvana's success,became over-looked.Bands such as the aforementioned Das Damen,Lonely Moans and Beat Happening.

A lot of people don't realise that some of the more famous grunge bands were amalgams of bands that released one early album on Sub-Pop and then cut their loses and joined forces.Green River and Motherlovebone are a prime example but this was due to the death of a member of a band.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 14:52
Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

I struggle with No Code, Binaural and Riot Act.  I really like Yield - that is a definite high point for me.  Ten and Vs are stunning though.  That opening riff on rearviewmirror is excellent.

I think PJ were the only band to have transcended the grunge scene, while remaining true to their music.  I put this down to their classic rock edge as opposed to the punkier side of the likes of Nirvana.  Not having serious drug problems or singers dying has also helped their longevity

I owe a lot to grunge; it stopped me listening to pap like Def Leppard, Cinderella and equally dreadful big hair metal/rock.



you haven't mentioned "Vitalogy", and incase you haven't heard that album it is very good, sounds very much like Ten and Vs and was their last grunge album, recorded in 1994.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 15:02
vitalogy is good, but not as good as ten or vs IMO - I also prefer Yield to Vitalogy.  Songs like Betterman, immortality and Nothingman are good, but I don't really like the others too much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 17:12

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 20:39
Originally posted by spectral spectral wrote:

vitalogy is good, but not as good as ten or vs IMO - I also prefer Yield to Vitalogy.  Songs like Betterman, immortality and Nothingman are good, but I don't really like the others too much.


Yield is incredible. I have no problems with Binaural or Riot Act. They are obviously weaker efforts but they have some reli good stuff on them, with different styles. "Nothing as it Seems" sounds like gilmour style guitar!

I recommend Lost Dogs. 70% of these tunes are very good! though there are the odd terrible ones. This album is 2 discs of rarities.

You will probably enjoy Temple of the Dog, its basically pearl Jam meets Soundgarden but is not very heavy, very emotional though since it is a tribute album. It definetly plays like a long lost pearl jam album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2005 at 20:41
Dirt is a classic album!

My favourite tracks are "Them Bones", "Would?", "Rain When I Die", "Damn That River", "Sickman", "Rooster" and "Down In a Hole" (just about most of the album lol)

My favourite Alice in Chains song has to be Nutshell from the MTV Unplugged show. Pure beauty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2005 at 01:08
I wouldn't call Alice In Chains grunge, anymore than I would call Heart or Queensryche grunge. They just happened to come from Seattle when Seattle was hot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2005 at 16:56
People who say that Nirvana are just a "watered down and commercial" version of grunge are just bitter because of how popular they are.  In Utero is an incredible album, and beautifully emphasizes everything that grunge is about.  If you like grunge, I see no reason not to love that album.
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