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Topic: VdGG - RFH - 06 May 2005 Posted: May 07 2005 at 03:40 |
Van der Graaf Generator - RFH - London - 06 May 2005
Well,here we are again,encamped upon their floor.29 years later.
I went to the very last VdGG London gig on 21st November 1976 at The Royal Theatre,Drury Lane.I was a frought 16 year old schoolboy.Now I am a frought middle-aged man.That was until the band took to the stage to a standing ovation.
Hammill,rail thin,dressed in white as usual ushered the rest of the band to their instruments.Gone is the huge HB1 organ that Banton used to attack with abandon.In it's place is a neat digital set-up.The sound is indistinguishable from the past.David Jackson,resplendant in his Italian policemans hat has moved his set-up to the back of the stage,next to Guy Evans'minimal drum-kit.Hammill, for the best part of the show,sings from behind an electric piano to the right of the stage as we look.What came next came as complete suprise.The opening song. UNDERCOVER MAN.My spine tingled from that moment,right through the two hours for which they played.At least two tracks from every album from The Least We Can Do...to World Record and (IN THE)BLACK ROOM/THE TOWER from Hammill's Chameleon in the Shadow of Night.Only one song from H to HE but what a song.VdGG used to refuse to play it until very late in their career.Shall I tell you what it is.Or will that spoil it for those who are about to see the rest of the gigs? No.I think you can guess what it is.The new songs from Present fitted in nicely with the older ones.The set was well balanced.Well,as balanced as you can get after a gap of over a quarter of a century.
I can't wait until they play Shepherds Bush on the 8th July.By then, some of you, may have witnessed a re-generated Van der Graaf.
If you really want to know the whole set-list go to:-
www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk
THEY CAME,WE SAW,THEY CONQUERED.
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 06:56 |
I was at the gig also. Astonishing wasn't it. Highlights for me were Man-Erg, In the Black Room and most of all Childlike Faith in Childhood's End. Absolutely Phenomenal!!
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 08:14 |
Killer was the big suprise for me.
Having seen the Godbluff-World record gigs,and their refusal to play it (Killer),it was a very special moment for me when they encored with it on Friday.Darkness (11/11) was also a suprise.But,as you say,it was ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL!
Roll on July 8th,Shepherd's Bush
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 12:13 |
Man erg - Can I ask? - How did they match up in terms of their playing with their 70s selves. I know from others that they were famously chaotic live - in the 70s. they seemed so tight, musically the other night.
me and a friend thought Hammill's voice was just perfect, considering he's recovering from a full blown heart attack - he put a lot of energy into it didn't he? Doing his usual back of the stage prowling. Tell you another thing I noticed - the crowd were amazing - some London prog gigs i've attended the audience can be very quiet - but the reception the graaf got (deservedly) astonished me - it was rapturous!!
And the set list - it was so pleasing I couldn't bring myself to even entertain the thought that, yes, lighthouse keepers would have been nice (it would, obviously - but you can't have everything) but in the face of a set list like that it just seems impertinant!
The graaf man, LEGENDS!!!!!
mainhorse
ps - its a great site this isn't it - looking forward to having some good cyber-talks.
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Posted: May 08 2005 at 12:22 |
Just back from London, and they were absolutely fantastic - utterly mesmeric from start to finish. If I had a criticism at all, I thought Guy Evans was a little disorientated at times, but his recoveries were amazing, and his technique clearly hasn't deserted him - magical.
Jaxon was immense, and Banton amazing, but the biggest surprise for me was Hammill's voice - just astonishing - every bit as snarling and ferocious as those early albums. What a performance he gave - still running around the stage.
I would definitely go and see them again and would urge any fence-sitters to do likewise. They WILL get even better
I'll post some pictures up when I work out how to do it....!!
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Posted: May 09 2005 at 03:48 |
Hi Mainhorse,
The only comparisons that I can make between the 1970s performances is that Hammill used to be centre stage for all of the gig.He now plays keyboards as well as guitar and seems to prefer playing them (keyboards) side of stage.
The old VdGG were 'positively' chaotic with an aggression that still exists.Hammill would also ramble between songs,telling us what they had been up to recently.Informing us about the content of the up-coming song.Something that he may have picked-up from Peter Gabriel when Genesis and VdGG shared bills.
I can remember Hammill being in awe of the architecture of The Victoria Palace Theatre when they played there in 1976/77.Obviously,owing to recent circumstances,Hammill no longer flings himself around the stage.He just walks around the stage alot when he is not involved in certain parts of the songs.
Overall.The magic is still there and I the think that the voodoo will become stronger as the tour continues.
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Posted: May 11 2005 at 03:55 |
Saturday, May 7 2005
From a train somewhere between London and Newcastle. . .
Why Do Pensioners Have All The Best Tunes?
In a week that saw the pundits and politico’s babble excitedly about whether the country might turn red, blue, yellow or green it was the Grey party that was always going to get my vote.
In the time that both Cream and Van der Graaf Generator have been away, legions of children (and perhaps even grandchildren) have been spawned by the spotty-faced teenagers who once shook their long locks to the likes of White Room and, a few years on, In The Black Room.
Though occupying opposite ends of the stylistic spectrum both bands have a distinctive sound that identifies them within a matter of seconds and despite that fact that what was once white or Black is now a paler shade of grey, they both packed the kind of punch that contenders a fraction of their age can only dream about.
With over 150 years plus years between them, Clapton, Bruce and Baker walked casually out on stage to receive the adulation of a Royal Albert Hall so packed to the rafters with Americans that one could be forgiven for thinking that this was a Democratic convention. Whilst Clapton looked like he might pass for a relaxed White House candidate in off-duty family mode, the same could not be said of Jack Bruce, whose illness and recent liver transplant had clearly taken it toll. Having always had something of a gnarled visage, Ginger Baker presented a bewildered gape throughout the night, looking not unlike an Alzheimer sufferer presented with a cutlery drawer and asked to find a spoon.
As the trio basked in the glow of approval, row upon row was lit bright not by people holding lighters and matches aloft but with the glare of tiny display screens from mobile phones. Next to me, a chap all the way from Boston was busily texting someone back home with the news that Cream had opened the set with I’m So Glad. And so it was for the next two hours, intercontinental networks buzzing as text and open lines conveyed the comings and goings of the gig to envious loved ones.
At a time when everything around a concert is slickly packaged, it was refreshing to see some good old fashioned eye-contact and hear a couple of raggy endings to some of the numbers, producing many smiles and grins from the players. This benign expression of schadenfreude was matched by an unambiguous joy at the successes and triumphs that were equally evident in each other’s playing. Clapton played a blinder during NSU and demonstrated something of his old fluid potency during the tumultuous comedown of We’re Going Wrong. Bruce proved that despite his health problems and a need to sit down during a few sections of the set, the glorious rasping voice remained as wonderfully course as you’d want and his bass playing was never less than spectacular.
Even Baker’s dogged thumping achieved what was required although lacked the spark that rightly saw him feted back in his heyday. Though his end veered more towards competency than celebration, it was good to hear a ludicrously quaint Pressed Rat And Warthog. Not quite able to keep a straight face during his recitation, Ginger reminded us at the end of the piece that our heroes had actually re-opened their shop and of course were now selling t-shirts.
The perfunctory Politician and anodyne Spoonful sometimes gave the impression that the task was to get through the big numbers in the time allocated rather than see where the muse might lead. Perhaps only Sweet Wine bucked the trend, taking a meandering journey in search of a sparky solo. But such concerns are of no consequence to the majority of those present. If Eric Clapton was God then this was not so much a concert as a congregation in communion.
And whilst Cream’s influential shadow may be longer and deeper across the popular culture landscape, when it comes to originality Van der Graaf are no slouches either. As at the Albert Hall, when Hammill, Jackson, Banton and Evans climbed aboard the atmosphere at the Royal Festival Hall was charged with an enormous amount of goodwill. And like Cream, none of them are getting any younger; factor in a major health scare (Hammill’s heart attack a year or so ago) and there’s more than enough reason to get it together before it’s all too late.
In this pessimistic light, a VdGG reunion might just be seen as an exercise in giving the back catalogue a stir through were it not for the appearance of their new double album, Present, which is as good (in a couple of cases) better than anything from the past.
Looking as thin as packet of Rizla papers, the singer whispered his way through the delicate menace of Undercover Man’s opening bars but soon unleashed the roar of terror that not only makes the hairs on the back of your neck to stand up but shaves them off for good measure. That brutal sharpness stretches right across the band, be it the seismic heaving of Guy Evans’ restless drumming, Hugh Banton oozing keyboards or David Jackson’s stratospheric sax.
The sense of hazard that seems such a part of the VdGG encounter was palpable throughout a set that delved deep into the past but came up sounding remarkably contemporary. New tracks such as Every Bloody Emperor and Nutter Alert sounded every bit the equal of old warhorses such as Lemmings, Darkness and even, Killer. Throughout the night their turbulent music boiled with a caustic, controlled rage which either turns people off or makes them a fan for life. With VdGG, there doesn’t seem to be anything in between. When music is as committed as this, it’s impossible to be partial about it.
At the Albert Hall, the crowd often applauded at the end of a Clapton solo such is the appreciative nature of the blues-based devotee. At the Royal Festival Hall, a different order of deference was evident. Large sections of the crowd would whoop, stomp and generally go ga-ga at the sound of Hugh Banton’s malevolent bass-end keyboards (think Killer). This wasn’t so much for the content (although that was uniformly fine) given that VdGG don’t really do solo’s as such. Rather it was for the very sound itself.
A truly partisan crowd applauded Jackson every time he put those two saxes simultaneously to his mouth – regardless of what came out. As with Cream, it seems likely that the band could have recited lines from the telephone book and the reaction would have been just as ecstatic. As it was, whatever Jackson played had a cracked, ethereal majesty about it. In between numbers, he would sometimes stand with his arms raised, holding a flute and sax in each hand, soprano and alto strapped across his chest like a bandolier making him look like a soldier of fortune; his body resembling a triumphant X marking the spot, as if to say “this is where the treasure is”.
With Banton and Evans understandably anchored behind their respective instruments, it was Hammill who strode manically about the stage, spitting out lines, flapping and swaying about as though being lashed by an unseen force, giving vent to the fearsome powers that this music has conjured for well over thirty years. Again like Cream, there was an understanding that no matter how formidable their individual talents might be, only when they lock together do they combine to create something that is somehow bigger than themselves. Throughout the gig, they smiled at each other, engaged in playful competition, emerging breathless from one of their more labyrinthine, MC Escher riff-fests, riding on the crest of risk-induced surge of adrenalin.
Here, even the weaker material from World Record sounded effective. As the final encore of Wondering slowly wound down to a single heart-beat note played by Banton and Jackson, one was left thinking that there was plenty of life in the band. And by the end of a concert that had witnessed four middle-aged men whip up a fury that would have been the envy of many a younger group, there was a marvellous sense of resolution, a feeling that the long years of listening had been vindicated, had always made sense; that one’s faith in something so transient and ephemeral as mere music had in the end not been misplaced.
As a sea of smiling faces spilled out the hall, I asked David Symes for his verdict. Though familiar with their material this was the first time he’d witnessed them in action. Looking dazed and amazed he managed to offer me these words: “Relentless. . .and. . magnificent.”
Stolen from Sid Smith's Diary!!!
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 03:29 |
At this point, I feel it only fitting to direct a heartfelt
"I hate you all"
to all those lucky enough to get tickets...
**sob**
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 05:50 |
I'm in America
any chance to see them?
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 15:27 |
Hey everyone. Trying to sell a VDGG ticket for the gig at Leicester's De Montfort Hall (UK) gig n the 9th July. If anyone is interested, or has any info on a better place to advertise, please gimme a shout! Thanks
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 00:39 |
I missed the RFH gig, as it was sold out in December, but I do have my ticket for Friday, so I'll see you there I guess.
I'm 24 and I've waited 29 years for this moment!
Plus a friend is sending me a bootleg of the RFH gig (I know I know,
have a go...), but I will certainly be buying the official release of
the RFH gig later this year.
I hope I am not going to be disappointed. I am taking my brother
and he's a huge Pink Floyd fan and likes his prog, but he's hardly
heard any VdGG, so it'll be interesting to see what he thinks...
One question to anybody who went..., does Jaxon use the soundbeam on
every track? I wondered what sort of wonderful new noises he made
with this contraption, especially on the classics.
I can't wait until Friday.
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 04:28 |
Jean and I listened to the Royal Festival Hall gig of VdGG again yesterday (thousand thanks to Geck0 for uploading it for us) and were taken back in time to May 6th last year. It was such a fantastic concert that it is difficult to pick any highlights; if pressed I will pick "Lemmings" and "Killer" (an absolute Killer-rendition of it) as highlights. "Wondering" was a perfect end to that gig; a much needed chill-out after the heat of "Killer", and a lot of people in the audience had tears in their eyes during the last song (Jean and I too). As others mentioned before, the two new songs blended effortlessly with the rest of the material, and it is a safe bet that any newbie to VdGG would not be able to tell which two songs were the new ones when listening to this concert; the only hint he might have are the lyrics of "Every Bloody Emperor", which directly refer to some of the world's "leaders" of today. We are really looking forward to the official release and hope it will have all the applause on it too (the applause after "Killer" just would not end, and Hammill had to say "Calm down" several times before they could play the last song). A must buy for everyone.
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 04:34 |
Geck0 wrote:
I missed the RFH gig, as it was sold out in December, but I do have my ticket for Friday, so I'll see you there I guess.
I'm 24 and I've waited 29 years for this moment!
Plus a friend is sending me a bootleg of the RFH gig (I know I know,
have a go...), but I will certainly be buying the official release of
the RFH gig later this year.
I hope I am not going to be disappointed. I am taking my brother
and he's a huge Pink Floyd fan and likes his prog, but he's hardly
heard any VdGG, so it'll be interesting to see what he thinks...
One question to anybody who went..., does Jaxon use the soundbeam on
every track? I wondered what sort of wonderful new noises he made
with this contraption, especially on the classics.
I can't wait until Friday.
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You should not worry about the bootleg; Hammill himself has nothing against bootlegs, provided no-one profits from them by selling them to others.
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 17:37 |
Great it's on time they release some shows on DVD, I got the Godbluff DVD ofcourse but i hunger for more.
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 19:04 |
Ah, I've never been sure what Peter's thoughts on bootlegs have been. Yes, I've not profited from it, but I am still going to buy the official release, it'll be interesting to see how they handle the applause and which bits they cut out, as it'll inevitably be on two discs. I still think they should maybe stick a few tracks from other gigs on the disc, unless of course they evenly space the tracks, so each CD has about 50 to 60 minutes each on it.
I look forward to it, I hope they'll be a nice booklet and some photos too.
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Posted: September 17 2006 at 21:06 |
Back to the concert itself, for a while...
Interestingly, I was there with some of you, even, maybe, saw some of you, without knowing, and now we share our impressions about the concert we have presented at...
I had my chance, my luck, maybe, for the first and the last time in my life (I hope, not the last...). I had it twice at the same time. I was in London on a week holiday, after long years I only wanted to visit this (greatest!!!!!) city. Also, I knew that when I'll be there, there should be a VdGG gig. I knew very well, however, that all ticket were already sold. But at the day of the show (it was the penultimate day of my wonderful holiday in London) I went to the Royal Festival Hall, with the not too healthy idea of someone returning his/her ticket for some reason. Surprisingly, there were some at the cash. I said: "But it was said that all tickets are sold". And the lady at the cash register answered: "That's right. They were sold, but some of them were returned". I was superlucky to buy one just three hours before the show. I was walking on the South Bank, I went to see the Southwark Cathedral, I went down to the Thames -- with VdGG songs in my head.
At the show itself, I had a feeling that the entire auditory as if is breathing in unison, and I with everyone. I knew every note the group played, and many words (English isn't my native language; for some reasons, I was sure that I'm the only non-Englishman in the hall (which was wrong) and everybody is familiar with every word Peter Hammill sings except for me). Anyway, it were two hours and a quarter of the full enjoyment, of the utter quality of the group, two hours when I haven't remembered myself, two hours full of magic, of wisdom, of...
The greatest show... Van der Graaf Generator reunion... I could hardly beleive it has happened in reality...
Now I'm waiting for the live release from that gig...
Edited by Fassbinder - September 17 2006 at 22:48
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