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    Posted: July 24 2005 at 12:01

I'm just listening to/watching the DVD of Zappa's 1981 Halloween show. I noticed that the DVD is not listed in the archives, but it's really good!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=64174 66100&category=309&rd=1

Does anyone else know this DVD? I think it's much better than Does Humor belong in Music or Baby Snakes ... and it features a very young Steve Vai. Technically it's a bootleg, but it was filmed and recorded professionally and broadcast on U.S. TV.

1981/10/31 early and late show
halloween 1981, 'the palladium', nyc, ny, usa

compiled & edited by frank zappa

frank zappa: guitar, vocals
steve vai: guitar, vocals
ray white: guitar, vocals
scott thunes: bass, vocals
chad wackerman: drums
ed mann: percussion, vocals
tommy mars: keyboards, vocals
bobby martin: keyboards, saxophone, vocals

  1. black napkins
  2. montana
  3. easy meat
  4. beauty knows no pain
  5. i'm a beautiful guy
  6. charlie's enormous mouth
  7. fine girl
  8. teenage wind
  9. harder than your husband
  10. bamboozled by love
  11. we're turning again
  12. alien orifice
  13. flakes
  14. broken hearts are for assholes
  15. you are what you is
  16. mudd club
  17. the meek shall inherit nothing
  18. dumb all over
  19. heavenly bank account
  20. suicide chump
  21. jumbo go away
  22. stevie's spanking
  23. the torture never stops
  24. strictly genteel
  25. the illinois enema bandit

bonus tracks (late show - from the "dub room special")

  1. cocaine decisions
  2. nig biz


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I'm just listening to/watching the DVD of Zappa's 1981 Halloween show. I noticed that the DVD is not listed in the archives, but it's really good!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=64174 66100&category=309&rd=1

Does anyone else know this DVD? I think it's much better than Does Humor belong in Music or Baby Snakes ... and it features a very young Steve Vai.

I'm sorry, I'm quite ignorant when it comes to Frank Zappa.

but tell me Mike, just how many CDs & DVDs do you have in your collection?...
Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm quite ignorant when it comes to Frank Zappa.

but tell me Mike, just how many CDs & DVDs do you have in your collection?...

I have 506 cds ... that's counting double albums as 1.



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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

I'm sorry, I'm quite ignorant when it comes to Frank Zappa.

but tell me Mike, just how many CDs & DVDs do you have in your collection?...

I have 506 cds ... that's counting double albums as 1.

I'm sorry, but you've just re-inforced a dreadful stereotypical image we have of the Germans...that they would know exactly how many CDs they have..I bet they are in band order and release date order within each band too... 

sorry, forgive me, I'm just being naughty, but I still don't know much about Frank Zappa..

..but I have had Vanden Plas & Eloy on this afternoon, with Everon to follow...
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Have a look here:

http://uneasy-listening.com/home/playlist/collection.html

It's just as you feared ... but the artist sorting is still wrong (Steve Vai filed under "S"), and many thumbnails are missing.
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I don't think that it is an official release, but I could be wrong. I know there was a bootleg video(both shows were shown on US TV I believe) of that concert so it may have been transferred to DVD. I haven't seen it for a few years, but I remember it was a really good concert.
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Originally posted by Richardw Richardw wrote:

I don't think that it is an official release, but I could be wrong. I know there was a bootleg video(both shows were shown on US TV I believe) of that concert so it may have been transferred to DVD. I haven't seen it for a few years, but I remember it was a really good concert.

As I said, the DVD is not an authorized release (at least it is not published by Rykodisc), but the quality is quite good. I'd say that it is virtually identical to what was broadcast back then. It's not at all like the usual bootleg that is filmed with amateur cameras from the audience. There are several cameras (3, I think), and the director cleverly switches perspectives during the songs.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Richardw Richardw wrote:

I don't think that it is an official release, but I could be wrong. I know there was a bootleg video(both shows were shown on US TV I believe) of that concert so it may have been transferred to DVD. I haven't seen it for a few years, but I remember it was a really good concert.

As I said, the DVD is not an authorized release (at least it is not published by Rykodisc), but the quality is quite good. I'd say that it is virtually identical to what was broadcast back then. It's not at all like the usual bootleg that is filmed with amateur cameras from the audience. There are several cameras (3, I think), and the director cleverly switches perspectives during the songs.

Yes I remember the guitar duel on 'Stevie's Spanking' the most. Both Zappa and Vai on great form. Great stuff
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Originally posted by Richardw Richardw wrote:

Yes I remember the guitar duel on 'Stevie's Spanking' the most. Both Zappa and Vai on great form. Great stuff

Also great humor: Beauty Knows No Pain, Charlie's Enormous Mouth, Harder Than Your Husband, Flakes, ... and of course The Illinois Enema Bandit.
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2005 at 10:53
I saw it lying in a shop once - didn't buy it, and now it's gone
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^ I guess I was really lucky to buy it on Ebay ... apparently it's quite rare now. I recommend that you set up an Ebay search for "Zappa DVD Torture", that way you won't miss any auction.
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Here is a great place of Zappa info.

http://www.united-mutations.com/z/frank_zappa.htm
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     I remember when it was broascast, believe it or not, it was
the first live concert ever broadcast on MTV, with whom Zappa
had a special relationship in its infancy. I made a VHS copy,
which is still in OK shape. But better than Baby Snakes? NO
WAY!!!

     My question is: when will the Roxie & Elsewhere DVD be
released? It was already advertised on a Baby Snakes CD I got
about 4 years ago!!!

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Joe Travers interviewed by Gary Titone  July 2005
It's sitting in the vault. Waiting for a budget to do it properly. Basically the film footage, the negatives were transferred by Frank in the '80s using '80s technology. What we want to do is go back to the original negatives and do it in High Definition and then create a 5.1 mix from the original masters so that we have surround sound as well as Frank's 2 channel stereo mix. Once we get all that together, then we need to cut the program. Edit the program together, camera angles, what shows, what we are going to include from what shows or include all the shows. I have no idea what Dweezil and Gail want to do. It's great stuff, but the process of just getting to that point is going to cost a lot of money and take a lot of time.
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