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Topic: King Crimson - 26 Sept, 2014 Chicago Vic Theater
Posted: October 30 2014 at 19:20

Nice.

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Posted: October 30 2014 at 00:31

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Posted: October 24 2014 at 04:54

schizoidman wrote:

"There will be more King Crimson coming, sometime in 2015 - and you can be sure we'll all post about that as soon as things are confirmed."

LINK: http://www.papabear.com/tours/crim14/crim14_20.htm

I'm totally in that picture!! Upper left (stage right) area somewhere in a sea of arms, but I am there.

A DVD would be nice, but if they tour again I will be going. Was one of the best concerts of my life.

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Posted: October 21 2014 at 12:02

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I hope they'll announce a european tour Wink

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Posted: October 21 2014 at 10:12

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If this is Bob's farewell tour, it was worth the hefty cost of the ticket!

I don't think it was Bob's farewell, although it could. At the end of the show, I thought I saw a very content man standing up on the stage staring at the crowd. I think that he was surprised and will look back at this whole tour as very special indeed.

The hefty cost is not an issue. Have you been to the Metropolitan lately? It's over 200 or 300 a ticket. Bob's choice for small, congenial and friendly atmosphere is probably the best, instead of a typical rock audience ... this is for the fans that have stuck with the band the whole time.

I keep telling folks, that once in a lifetime is worth it. You're not going to get a chance to see Misha again. You're not gonna have a chance to see Nureyev ever again. You're not going to have a chance to see The Wall ever again. You're not going to see Pavarotti every again, type of thing, and if you don't jump on it, it's gone forever. These, are "frozen moments" in time in the history of the art form.

The price is not an issue. You either appreciate the art form, or its gone. My main problem with rock music fans, is that they have little, if any, appreciation for it as an art form, which of course, it is not treated as such, but it is treated as "sales" only! Which in the end, kinda tells you where the whole thing was at, anyway!

I might even like to see Fripp add Eno for 30 minutes, and Toyah for 20 (How about the Lady and the Tiger?), and Peter Hammill for 20 or 30 ... and then Cluster for 30 ... now you really got me in heaven!!!!!

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Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:59

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Haven't heard anything on filming. However, on Tony Levin's website he mentions that there will be more Crimson in 2015.

I quote:
"There will be more King Crimson coming, sometime in 2015 - and you can be sure we'll all post about that as soon as things are confirmed."

LINK: http://www.papabear.com/tours/crim14/crim14_20.htm

It would be totally silly, bizarre and scary, if this is not delivered as a DVD, specially as it probably was one of their best tours ever.

They need to take this show to London, Paris and Germany. If they don't, a DVD would be an excellent alternative, but I think that KC/Fripp will regret not doing it. This is sort of like Roger re-doing The Wall. It's great any way you look at it, and in many ways, way better than the original, because now, it is seasoned like a very good old wine!

Edited by moshkito - October 21 2014 at 10:00

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Posted: October 18 2014 at 19:55

^Thanks, Moshkito! Great review! I'm glad you had a good time!

I'm just guessing that there will be a DVD, but it seems very likely. Steve Wilson of Porcupine Tree is tight with RF, and the Tree have done several DVD concerts (I was at two of 'em!), which is a new twist on rock music marketing.

Plus, I believe that Bob views these concerts as historically significant & would want to capture the energy we saw. Fripp, Mel Collins, Tony Levin, my god! And THREE drummers!!

If this is Bob's farewell tour, it was worth the hefty cost of the ticket!

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Posted: October 14 2014 at 15:23

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Does anybody know if any show is being filmed?? I heard that they aren't, and that'd mean there'll be no dvd... only audio, if at all

They need a DVD/CD for sure for the whole thing.

The Seattle Show was a massive blow out, and it was enough that metal bands look like kids in the garage playing with their weewees! The quality was magnificent, and the 3 drummers together were ... out of this world ... and DEAN ... you have to see it ... I hope you do, because it was not only magnificent, it was magical and it was the pure definition of music, and what people can do WITH IT, TO IT, AND ABOUT IT!

There was only one other show I have ever seen, where the quality of the musicianship and staging and definition of terms, and such, on the stage, were above and beyond the call of duty, and it was "Return to Forever" with Ponti, a couple of years ago. This show, reaches that level and some, and leaves you breathless.

The double CD they sell IS NOT any of the concerts, and it had way too many studio bits for my tastes, many of which were not one half as good as what they did on the stage at that show. I'm already looking for a bootleg ... because that was a massive show! And to damn good to be wasted in the vaults of nothingness. In the very end, KC will be hurting itself, if it can not show that they are a force to deal with ... but hiding that force is stupid!

Btw, I do not have a set list for the Seattle show ... I am not sure that it was close to the one Stack listed, but 21st was the encore and there was one more bittie in the middle of it, with the obligatory drum solo by Gavin ... which was not necessary, but gave it the ROCK crowd another erection. It was very nice and wonderful to watch the 3 drummers just kick ass!!!!!

Edited by moshkito - October 14 2014 at 15:28

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Posted: October 11 2014 at 01:51

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rushaholic wrote:

Flying to Los Angeles this Wednesday to see them - after reading this thread i am more excited then ever.

I still have no words to review the Seattle show with ... that's how good it was!

Insanely excellent all the way around!

I'm still bummed I didn't get to make up to Seattle to see them. That's great to hear you guys all enjoyed it.

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Posted: October 10 2014 at 17:11

I hope they'll announce a european tour Wink

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Posted: October 10 2014 at 16:39

frippster wrote:

Does anybody know if any show is being filmed?? I heard that they aren't, and that'd mean there'll be no dvd... only audio, if at all

Haven't heard anything on filming. However, on Tony Levin's website he mentions that there will be more Crimson in 2015.

I quote:
"There will be more King Crimson coming, sometime in 2015 - and you can be sure we'll all post about that as soon as things are confirmed."

LINK: http://www.papabear.com/tours/crim14/crim14_20.htm

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Posted: October 10 2014 at 15:59

Does anybody know if any show is being filmed?? I heard that they aren't, and that'd mean there'll be no dvd... only audio, if at all

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Posted: October 10 2014 at 12:57

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Flying to Los Angeles this Wednesday to see them - after reading this thread i am more excited then ever.

I still have no words to review the Seattle show with ... that's how good it was!

Insanely excellent all the way around!

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Posted: October 08 2014 at 11:44

I don't know about Thursday and Friday. I was there on Saturday and the second floor was far from full. I'd say about half.

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Posted: October 05 2014 at 23:34

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Hi cstack3

Glad you enjoyed the show! I didn't recognize the Scarcity of Miracles tunes, so it was new King Crimson to me, I thought everything clicked!

J's voice was fine for the material, he isn't Lake or Wetton, but he carried the task well.

I liked J's guitar, he was really jamming with Fripp on several songs! "Pictures of a City" comes to mind, that was a highlight for me.

And I agree about the drumming, that was a brilliant move by Fripp!

As far at the Discipline/Belew era, I've seen many of those shows, and I was ready for a change. It was great to see Fripp and Mel Collins together, playing material from "Red"! I was never that impressed by the Belew-era band when they did older material.

I'm sorry that the ticket prices were so expensive, a lot of fans had to sit this one out. Somehow, Fripp managed to sell out THREE shows in Chicago! Very impressive accomplishment!

If this is the farewell tour for the Crimson King, then I will die a happy man!! Cheers!

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Posted: October 03 2014 at 09:23

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I was there the 27th and as you, I was blown away. For me also, it was the best concert I've attended.

If I have to nit pick, here's my $0.02:

a. The couple of songs from Scarcity of Miracles are just meh. I don't think they worked live.

b. as much as Jakko's guitar playing was fantastic, I thought his singing was the weakest link of an otherwise "perfeKct" lineup

c. I was sad that Ade Belew wasn't there. Who knows why?

d. I was sad that not one song from the 80's trilogy was played. It's not a "respect for Belew" thing because they played songs from all the subsequent albums. I suspect that Jakko might not be able to intertwine the gamellan parts with Fripp the way Belew can.

The 3 drummers were just SICK, you gotta love that. I had never been very keen on Mastelotto, but he does an incredible job here. I'd never hear Rieflin, or even of him, also great and very very musical. Harrison is a drum god, my favorite drummer alive. How about his solo on 21st Century Schizoid Man?

Finally, if Fripp really decides that this is it for Crimso, so be it. It's a superb way to retire, just like Derek Jeter with his walk-of single. But if he doesn't release a document (as in a 5.1 Steven Wilson mix blue ray disk) of this tour... well, I'm going to be angry.

Cheers, and thanks for starting this topic, especially from Chicago!

ps: the Saturday show was not sold-out- plenty seats upstairs, it really pissed me off. I can't believe that it didn't sell out in a market this big, and with the weather we had last weekend. I'm glad the other shows were full. They deserve a large audience. As many in PA, I asked my friends if they wanted to come with me and the response of ALL OF THEM was that they didn't know KC Confused

. My brother did, he lives abroad and came especially for the show.

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Posted: September 29 2014 at 23:36

rushaholic wrote:

Flying to Los Angeles this Wednesday to see them - after reading this thread i am more excited then ever.