ratings system stinks

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: I just had a look at a few of the 1 star reviewers of Ut Gret, most have them have just signed up in the last 2 months, have rated thousands of albums and consistently give the couple of hundred RIO albums they rated 1 or 2 stars. Sorry but this is just nuts. They really all have listened to those albums well enough to rate them? If I hated RIO that much I'd stop listening to them after the first few dozen. Bizarre

ON a closer look : i think those 7 1-star ratings for Ut Gret are all the same guy. Last visit was for all at 24/8 around noon. They gave 1 star ratings to a lot of the same bands and albums and also 5 star ratings to same bands, like RPWL and Resistor which aren't exactly the most high profile bands around.

A bit harsh on Ut Gret though; 7 1-star ratings out of 22 from just 1 person.

thedunno wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:   I just had a look at a few of the 1 star reviewers of Ut Gret, most have them have just signed up in the last 2 months, have rated thousands of albums and consistently give the couple of hundred RIO albums they rated 1 or 2 stars. Sorry but this is just nuts. They really all have listened to those albums well enough to rate them? If I hated RIO that much I'd stop listening to them after the first few dozen. Bizarre. A collaborators review might help a bit to compensate for those losers <hint>

It's an idea I'm all too familiar with in my day job.  I have to devise and implement consistent, defensible methodologies to distribute millions of dollars to over a thousand doctors.  No matter what I do, and how fairly I do it, there's always a few complainers who feel they got shortchanged somehow.  You just can't please everyone.

Edited by HolyMoly - August 27 2014 at 08:37

thedunno wrote: For writing a review the reviewer must take the time and efford to formulate his thoughts. Just allowing reviewes will get rid of the gremlins who just give quick 1 star ratings for pleasure.

This has been discussed, and the site owner's rationale of allowing ratings only is to encourage participation in the rating process by non-English speaking visitors.  Only allowing ratings with a review alienates that sector of the audience.  Some may think, "yeah? so what?" to this, but when considering the economics, it makes sense to broaden the appeal of the site globally if possible.  The thoughtless 1-star mavericks out there are just one such drawback that any system could encounter.  I think the heavy weighting of ratings with reviews compared to ratings without reviews is a good solution which greatly compensates for that drawback.  Few if any systems we devise could be perfect.

NotAProghead wrote: thedunno wrote:  I would get rid of the simple ratings at all. Just allow reviews. So if you'd like to rate "Foxtrot" (or DTSOM or some other monster album) you have to write one more review which nobody would bother to read to 1000 existing ones? For God's sake no!

Are you saying that the rating (given by the reviewer) makes the review stand out?

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:   I just had a look at a few of the 1 star reviewers of Ut Gret, most have them have just signed up in the last 2 months, have rated thousands of albums and consistently give the couple of hundred RIO albums they rated 1 or 2 stars. Sorry but this is just nuts. They really all have listened to those albums well enough to rate them? If I hated RIO that much I'd stop listening to them after the first few dozen. Bizarre.

A collaborators review might help a bit to compensate for those losers <hint>

I agree Eugene, that is unless we could be rid of them altogether (which isn't going to happen).

The trick is to disregard the ratings (if they're not made by people you trust) and go straight to the reviews

Just to point out that the album generally regarded as the greatest prog album of all time has around 30 1-star ratings.

Should not be a problem PA is full of silly threads. Fortunately there is some great reviewers here who are very serious about honesty in reviewing. A rating without a review is about as important as......... not much. Keep proggin...