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Topic: "Canterbury Scene" Recommendations Posted: May 29 2012 at 03:13
I just finished "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night" and really enjoyed the second half of this album. I was also surprised to hear a section of SM's "Slightly All The Time" in the last suite (I think it's called "Backwards"). Very cool album.
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Posted: May 21 2012 at 02:56
Wondeful!
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted: April 30 2012 at 15:29
MillsLayne wrote:
Found Caravan's If I Could... at a record shop this weekend, and I gotta say, while the album as a whole is enjoyable, "Can't Be Long Now/Francoise/For Richard/Warlock" is worth the price of admission alone.
yep
For Richard is a really nice track, comings before 9 feet underground... both are similar and are masterpieces. As I feel I die is great too, that thing grow on you.
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Posted: April 29 2012 at 20:33
Found Caravan's If I Could... at a record shop this weekend, and I gotta say, while the album as a whole is enjoyable, "Can't Be Long Now/Francoise/For Richard/Warlock" is worth the price of admission alone.
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Posted: April 22 2012 at 13:56
Hi,
IN general, for my tastes, the majority of Canterbury is too "style" oriented, as if the jazz'y style was more intellectual or academic ... and not many of those bands did very much rock oriented things.
In terms of "progressive", Khan (Steve Hillage) would be one of the exceptions along with Quiet Sun and I don't remember Egg too well right now.
The fusion style of the jazz thing is a bit overdone and "the same" for my ears. The part of Canterbury that I tend to listen to the most, would be (still) Kevin Ayers, who is still around doing his thing, Daevid Allen and Gong folks.
There are some Gong offshoots, but the funny thing is that most of them stick to the rock side of things or the meditative side of things, rather than the jazz thing, other than Daevid (on occasion) doing some of it just for fun and play. Of all the things I listened to here, the first one was the nicest for my ears, and the last one posted is very nice as well. Pantheon.
Would be nice to see more bands do this on the rock side of things ... instead of the jazz side.
Edited by moshkito - April 30 2012 at 13:02
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Posted: April 21 2012 at 09:01
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I'm loving Quiet Sun's Mainstream. So happy I happened upon a review of it to get my attention because that is an awesome album. And I'm like that Hiro Yanagida song above. Still have a long way to go to get through all of these!
yesh, planty of nice colorful albums. Quiet Sun is definitly a great one. I have found this one later in my progression due to the fact that there were no major canterbury vet other than Bill MacCormick who were playing the bass in Matchin'Moles too...
Guldbamsen wrote:
A band that sadly gets forgotten in the midst of all these delicious Canterbury acts(well maybe not moreso than some of these acts in this thread - as this easily is one of the more far fetching of the sort I personally have come across) is Dutch act Pantheon with their sole album Orion. Some pretty saucy stuff:
mine comes in a digipack and sounds terrible... its a bit a shame cause yeah, the songs are great.
This one from two well-known vets is really quiet. I like a lot.
a RPQ band named Opus 5 has done some nice fusion songs where i could hear some canterbury lining. I cannot really say if they were influenced by the canterbury scene or not
I can't help with recommendations, as I'm just as unfamiliar with the scene; I'm a Canterbury noob. I only have Soft Machine's Third and Fourth, and Ive heard various things from many of the Shred guys.I also have all of The Tangent albums; many of their songs are highly influenced by the Canterbury scene.
A band that sadly gets forgotten in the midst of all these delicious Canterbury acts(well maybe not moreso than some of these acts in this thread - as this easily is one of the more far fetching of the sort I personally have come across) is Dutch act Pantheon with their sole album Orion. Some pretty saucy stuff:
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Posted: April 20 2012 at 13:36
I can't help with recommendations, as I'm just as unfamiliar with the scene; I'm a Canterbury noob. I only have Soft Machine's Third and Fourth, and Ive heard various things from many of the Shred guys.I also have all of The Tangent albums; many of their songs are highly influenced by the Canterbury scene.
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Posted: April 20 2012 at 11:34
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I'm starting to get more how you are seeing the canterbury scene...
For you, Canterbury is more than a specific genre where you hear this or that type of happy jazzy music. Its a musicians family that has lived something together in a particular atmosphere back in many years. That leads you, to see some albums as Canterbury albums that I considere more like folk/pop or something else (Syd Barrett, Kevin Ayers and Caravan of dream) and in the other way, jazzy happy prog music that I feel like Canterbury stuff but don't come from that specific time and place, you are seeing it like fusion or something else... I'm I right ?
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Posted: April 20 2012 at 07:49
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I see Canterbury as more of a spirit, an attitude, than a style per se.
I've always thought it was so ... and the quintessential piece was always the ABC piece by Soft Machine, and WHEN it was done and WHERE ... because at the time, I really think it was a bit of a college group, pretty much sending a finger to everyone around them that were not listening and didn't give a damn about the music ... the ABC's got the attention, and you could say that the rest is ... Canterbury!
But there are other links here as well ... there is a lot of Syd Barrett in Canterbury ... ohhh heck, him and all these other folks were living together! ... ohh wait ... there is a lot of Canterbury in Syd Barrett ... that doesn't sound right. Oh heck, there's a lot of Kevin Ayers in Canterbury ... oh wait ... those folks also played ... oh my gawd ... you're kidding me ... and it doesn't stop. That guy was in Camel? ... he doesn't play that stuff! ... he what? ...
It ends up bringing up a completely different appreciation for music and you learn quickly that they just play everything with anyone and everyone, and the only person that didn't show up was ... oh well, we'll use him instead!
Edited by moshkito - April 20 2012 at 07:50
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Posted: April 19 2012 at 18:17
I'm agreeing with a lot of what Moshkito said.
There is this label called Canterbury for a bunch of bands and albums coming from this place and some guys somewhere else on the planet trying to do something similar. The human like to label things. That helps to search and find what you enjoy.
This genre is really wide, like previously said in someone else post, you could have mindblowing stuff, complexe mainly avant or 90%jazz music under the same umbrella.
My feelings about that kind of music and why I stick to it is because its this happ and /humoristic jazzy prog rock with nothing pretentious that can be played on a sunny sunday morning... drinking a tea...
And this is what I'm searching. Under the canterbury label or not.
The PA gives a few bands name and albums who label their music (or other has labeled for them) as Canterbury. You can easily pass in a few years (for me) through all the names under this umbrella and be really exited everytime someone find a new band or album suiting the "definition"... but this is not all. There is a ton of other albums that I find under other umbrellas (fusion, symphonic, avant/RIO...) that have similar sounds that bring my feelings back... but everytime I find a new one it was a chance... I wasn't expecting to hear some canterbury influences.
In the mean time, those other genres are so wide and have so many bands that I cannot find every albums that suite my taste in music with canterbury influences. This is why I think a thread like this could help me and other to find some other bands and albums not listed into Canterbury that have similar lining or are influenced of.
Bandhada – s/t, Open Cage (not listed in PA : really laidback fusion, easy listening, a tad lush)
Radio Piece
III - The Lost Puzzle aka “Tomato Pie Blues”, Tesseract & Monuments (Not listed in PA : Egg with 80s keyboard, complex
but laidback, excellent)
Combo FH –
Vëci (Things) (Listed under RIO/Avant : Canterbury meets RIO, with some interesting/weird percussions)
French TV - 3 firsts albums (listed under RIO/avant)
Granada -
Espana Ano 75 (Listed under symphonic : Spanish symphonic with folkloric element and a jazzy edge that
makes everything sounding a tad like Canterbury)
Maneige - Ni vent ni nouvelle (Listed under jazzrock/fusion, great RPQ band with a jazzy touch reminding me the canterbury scene)
SIXNORTH – Prayer
(listed under jazzrock/fusion : early 2000s Japanese new school band with many vets influences, sounds similar to HatN)
Tasavalan
Presidenti - Lambert Land (listed under jazzrock/fusion : Finish really colorful Canterbury-ish fusion album
with vocal)
Uzva – Niitoaika, Uoma
(listed under jazzrock/fusion : Finish New school instrumental fusion band, similar to Tasavalan Presidenti
“Lambert Land”, got the jazzy colorful element of Canterbury with some world
influences)
Quantum -
Quantum (Brazil, 1983) (Listed under symphonic but the feeling I have listening to this
album reminds me some Canterbury albums)
Samurai –
Samurai (truly a nice cross-over with fusion and the Canterbury humor, this
album got his own taste, sounds a tad vintage though)
Tipographica
– God say I can’t dance (Listed under RIO/avant : crazy Japanese 90s band, really complex, similar to
Henry Cow “leg ends” even more complex... not an easy listening. They have done
4 albums but this is actually the only one available)
Chance:RIsiko
– Sleep Talking (Listed under CrossOver : recent crossover band with a lot of Canterbury influences with
Rhodes and vibraphones, a tad dark but the album is a nice complete
masterpiece)
and I could go on and on... this is where I need help from PA senior forum members. ;3
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Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
) is Dutch act Pantheon with their sole album Orion. Some pretty saucy stuff:
