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Topic: Pink Floyd at Live8 Was Amazing Posted: July 25 2005 at 18:32 |
I have NEVER been a great Floyd fan but I was so excited in anticipation of what may be there.
Bloody awesome - Cumfortably Numb was heart wrenching straight after Wish you Were Here.
I am a metalhead but Dave Gilmour is a guitar freak fair dues.
Forget the US fiasco with MTV!!!!
The BBC with Jonathan Ross asked his female arsehole presenters what
they thought and they said wish You Were Here stood out yet any real
musical fan would see that Comfortably Numb might just turn fans of
Oasis, Colplay, U2 etc towards a proper band!
She was shameful - independent crap rulw cos they r yet they cant play
cos they need a capo to stay in key - disgraceful rubbish like
razorlight!
Long live Floyd and the Who lightyears ahead of all other crap!
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Cluster One
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Posted: July 07 2005 at 05:32 |
Just a word for all those people missing the "big picture" (i.e. FLOYD playing together as a band finally after 25 years!)
1. Yes, Roger can't sing (anymore, or ever could for that matter)
2. And yes, Dave plays all the wonderful guitar solos, and has a voice that can melt butter
BUT
Remember, it was Mr Waters who wrote the songs that were played by the
FLOYD that historic day (yah yah, I know Gilmour co-wrote WYWH and also
came up with the Comfy Numb solo), but in a nutshell, Roger is the
primary writer for the FLOYD (at least post-Syd and pre-1984) so who
gives a f**k if he can sing or not, he wrote the music/lyrics that we
love to hear Mr. Gilmour sing/play. And for that we should welcome his
presence on that stage
And this, coming from the biggest Dave Gilmour FLOYD fan you'll ever meet
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 19:01 |
Man I waited all day, face close to the TV and witnessed the most moving thing I will see for a long time (or the next PF concert ). Anyways, that meant a lot to me seeing them perform, a lot.
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 13:44 |
Chris Stacey wrote:
nacho wrote:
I agree it was a pretty good show, but are Certif1ed and I the only ones who think that Roger can't sing?
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Put it down to a bit of nerves Nacho and the fact the guy is pushing 60.... 3 billion viewers can wrangle the nerves. Roger W has never been a great vocalist but it has always been his cutting edge steel like voice which has provided angst in his voice. Don't let the small sh!t bother you, enjoy the bigger picture
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One day I went to a music instruments store, and they also had books with musical scores. I saw one book of scores of Pink Floyd`s "Wish You Were Here" album. This book also included photos and interviews with the band. In one of these interviews, Roger Waters says (more or less as I remember): "I really think that I can`t sing very well, so I suggested to the band to invite Roy Harper to sing "Have a Cigar",and the band answered "Yes" very quickly, maybe also thinking that I can`t sing. So we invited Roy Harper. I liked his voice, but in the end I also thought that I could sing that song well doing a bit differently than Roy. I think that the composer sometimes is the best singer of his songs". So, Waters, by 1975, also was thinking that he wasn`t a good lead singer, anyway. He also said in that interview that he thought that Gilmour was the best singer in the band.
Edit: I remembered that I have a book called "Pink Floyd" written by Miles. In this book, talking about the "Wish..." album, Roger said: ""Shine on You Crazy Diamond" was right on the edge of my range. I was feeling very insecure about singing". Roger suggested Roy Harper to sing the vocal (on "Have a cigar"). "I sort of expected them to say, "No, you do Roger", but they didn`t, they said "Great Idea". I now wish that I had done it. Though Harper did a fine job of singing it, a song can never sound quite right to the person who actually wrote it and that`s how Roger sees it , "Just one or two little things that I`d have done a bit differently...".
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 07:17 |
jonirob wrote:
glass house wrote:
Have anybody seen them when they were on their hight ?
loved the performance though !
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Saw them at BATH, 1970, (Old tw*t that I am)
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Saw the Animals tour (Gilmour pretty much ignored Waters back then as well BTW) where they played both WYWH and Money. The Live 8 performances of those 2 songs was definitely better, but seeing the Animal album performed live was unforgettable, especially as it was one the first five or so prog gigs I ever saw.
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 07:10 |
threefates wrote:
Ok ... that was the most incredible thing I've ever seen... well close enough.. and Dave was not only singing great.. but playing exceptional. Roger looked like he was having the time of his life... but what was up with them not showing Rick at all????
I'm crying as I type.. I had chill bumps all the way thru, but if I could blow up MTV I would right now.. because their frigging vjs came on to tell a stupid story right in the middle of Comfortably Numb and then cut out to a commercial right in the middle of David's solo.... that is absolutely unforgiveable!!!!!!!!
I hope someone gets this as a download soon so I can see the rest of it!!!!
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Reacting rather late here, but I can only echo 3Fates and say that the performance really did bring goosebumps, especially when Gilmour and Waters actually sang together on WYWH and Comfortably Numb. Here in the UK we did get a couple of brief glimpses of Rick. Magical stuff, the only stranger event would have been Syd joining them for Astronomy Domine.
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Posted: July 05 2005 at 00:15 |
I thought he did a fantastic job on Comfortably Numb. Roger really
brought out the tortured aspect of Pink, while Dave played the
soothing, yet cynical doctor perfectly. Besides, Roger hasn't played in
front of that many people in a long time, maybe since The Wall tours of
1980. You could hear the trembling in his voice when he dedicated WYWH
to Syd.
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 21:17 |
nacho wrote:
I agree it was a pretty good show, but are Certif1ed and I the only ones who think that Roger can't sing?
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Put it down to a bit of nerves Nacho and the fact the guy is pushing 60.... 3 billion viewers can wrangle the nerves. Roger W has never been a great vocalist but it has always been his cutting edge steel like voice which has provided angst in his voice. Don't let the small sh!t bother you, enjoy the bigger picture
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 18:25 |
I agree it was a pretty good show, but are Certif1ed and I the only ones who think that Roger can't sing?
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:33 |
This was a truly momentous occassion. Yams, you have said it all.......Floyd are back together again ( This is not a naive nostalgic blip either)
Gilmour has near completed a solo album
Waters has his next solo album in the bag but is holding off until Ca Ira is released by Sony in September. Trust me, both solo's will be redesigned and rechannelled into a Floyd studio album for release late 2006.
How do I base my theory - 33 years of loving this band and most of all- INSTINCT!!!!
What a day for music and the right politics!
The Who
Macca
also great
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:43 |
I have to wait to next Sunday to see this "Live 8" Show. It wasn`t broadcasted on TV in my city, and I couldn`t watch it in AOL Music (my PC is really "old" now!). One TV channel here announced yesterday that they are going to broadcast the show next Sunday, and after I read to all the commentaries in this thread, I hope to see the BBC version being broadcasted here. But also knowing how this TV channel works (it is part of a two channel company, called TVAzteca, and it likes to broadcast adds more than other TV companies, they are like "We are only here only for the money") maybe they are going to put ads in the middle of the songs!
This Pink Floyd Reunion wasn`t so "quickly" after all. It really took some years. I read some interviews in the Internet, and during the last 6 years there were indications that this Reunion could happen:
-One interview with Wright in which he said that he went to see Waters in concert in the late 90s, and later he went backstage to say "Hello" to Waters.Wright also said that he wasn`t in a good shape when he left PF, and that Waters was more or less right about saying that Wright wasn`t contributing very much to "The Wall". Wright said that he had at the time some personal problems and some problems with the use of substances, and that he wasn`t very happy with "The Wall" album project.
-One interview with Waters in which he said that he saw Mason on a beach during holidays, and that he thought that there wasn`t a good reason to be in an "eternal fight" with his old friend Mason, so he went to say "Hello" and to chat with Mason. Mason appeared sometime later in one of Waters`shows playing drums in "Set the controls to the heart of the Sun".
-During the making of the "Echoes" compilation, the 4 members had to agree in the selection of the songs, so producer James Guthrie had to act as a "messenger" between Pink Floyd and Waters.Finally, they agreed in the selection of the songs for the album. They didn`t start a "battle". There were indications of them being in good terms.
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 13:50 |
It was amazing they layed perfect and waters behaviour moved me .
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Posted: July 04 2005 at 00:34 |
the guys sure looked old.
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 22:16 |
Yams wrote:
Yeah, but, "OMG, Dave didn't even look at Roger!", is kind of ridiculous. |
Maybe to you it is...doesnt mean other folks don't get excited, or pay attention.
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 22:12 |
Yeah, but, "OMG, Dave didn't even look at Roger!", is kind of ridiculous.
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 22:04 |
Yams wrote:
You guys got to stop worrying about whether or not Dave was looking at Roger, or if Roger was looking at Dave. Their past differences are really none of our business, and they've either left the past in the past, or they haven't. There's nothing we can do about it. As far as I'm concerned, though, even if we don't get an album or a tour, we can finally say that The Floyd are back together! |
Come on man....you can't blame us for hoping and dreaming of what can be.
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 21:58 |
You guys got to stop worrying about whether or not Dave was looking at
Roger, or if Roger was looking at Dave. Their past differences are
really none of our business, and they've either left the past in the
past, or they haven't. There's nothing we can do about it. As far as
I'm concerned, though, even if we don't get an album or a tour, we can
finally say that The Floyd are back together!
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 21:26 |
threefates wrote:
Fishy wrote:
To me it is clear this was a one off momentum. They will never perform again in this line-up, I think. Waters tried to be friendly towards the others but Gilmour didn't even look at him. You could feel this wasn't a band anymore but three ex members and a stranger. But I hope I'm wrong off course...
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I think you're wrong.. Roger looked happy as a clam... and Dave looks just like he always did. In every live PF show I've ever seen, Dave barely moves, hardly ever smiles.. because what he plays is so intense, his concentration is on the music.. not on whats happening around him. This was the most I've seen him smile and move during a show in the last 20 years... and he and Roger have been conversing for a couple of weeks now... seems to be going well..
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WOW!! Didn't see this before I posted...Looks like a good sign to me!!!!
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 21:04 |
Absolutely phenominal!!! My god....I was seriously choked up. It was amazing how they looked like they hadn't ever missed a beat in the last 23 years.
Gilmour looked to me like he was ignoring Waters, maybe thats just Gilmours demeanor? I had the MTV and VH1 recordings...so the end was cut out. But during the numbers I don't think I saw DG look at RW one time.
Waters was thouroughly enjoying himself, smiling..looking at his bandmates, looked like he was really digging it.
Mason was so into comfortably numb, halfway through the song he throws his headphones off, couple secs later they pan back to him and he has his eyes shut.....the Dude was seriously into the groove and was feelin it.
For those guys who love Floyd and missed it......find a way to see it!!!!
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