Thread about Prog for Drugs!

greenback wrote: hdfisch, first of all, you rule! at last an intelligent  prog fan who condemn drugs! you know, we are surrounded by people who just want rights, rights and rights, and do not think about responsabilities and consequences: i call them average people. we are surrounded by "ostie de ti-culs" who think they know everything, who thing they can defy the law, and most of all who think they have rights for every reason. these days, PA has been infested by such persons, so that it just becomes unbearable! some people here compare you to Bush; don't worry: some people here compare my views to the Third Reich politics! As long as you notice that my objective is not to kill or harm  people, you understand that their comparisons are more than ridiculous. Only intelligent people understand the benefits of control, to not say KControl! what ordinary people do not understand is that with only rights, society lies in a total chaos; however, with an appropriate amount of control, society becomes better organized, more efficient and better sensibilized to common goals. overdose of rights are for parasite people living on the social welfare who think other people than themselves are responsible of their status. I hate P.E.T. Trudeau' human rights chart, because he contributed this way to put some chaos in Canada!

WTF are you talking about?!

hdfisch, first of all, you rule!

at last an intelligent  prog fan who condemn drugs!

you know, we are surrounded by people who just want rights, rights and rights, and do not think about responsabilities and consequences: i call them average people. we are surrounded by "ostie de ti-culs" who think they know everything, who thing they can defy the law, and most of all who think they have rights for every reason. these days, PA has been infested by such persons, so that it just becomes unbearable! some people here compare you to Bush; don't worry: some people here compare my views to the Third Reich politics! As long as you notice that my objective is not to kill or harm  people, you understand that their comparisons are more than ridiculous. Only intelligent people understand the benefits of control, to not say KControl!

what ordinary people do not understand is that with only rights, society lies in a total chaos; however, with an appropriate amount of control, society becomes better organized, more efficient and better sensibilized to common goals. overdose of rights are for parasite people living on the social welfare who think other people than themselves are responsible of their status. I hate P.E.T. Trudeau' human rights chart, because he contributed this way to put some chaos in Canada!

oliverstoned wrote: you admit yourself you're a polytoxicoman and you blame people to make allusions to weed...funny I think the term "drugs" is not good cause it suppose addiction, which is not the case of all substances evoked under this term, lile LSD for example, which is not addictive at all. I prefer the term "power plant", or "lucidogen" (instead of hallucinogen).

LSD is addictive, heh.

Anyway, I, myself, have taken an anti drug stance since I got clean, which was a terrible process, but I don't think discussions of the matter should be forbidden. It's actually an important life experience in my opinion. Granted it would be nice if everyone was smart enough to stay away from them, but most people aren't. I like to think that people will learn from their mistakes however, and walk away more knowledgeable from it, with more life experience, and maybe, just maybe, they'll walk away less naive from that, I know I did. I don't like the idea of drugs enhancing music, to me the music is great the way it is, and I don't need a substance to enhance my listening experience. On the other hand, however, I don't like the idea of a subject being taboo on a forum with a reasonably intelligent populus, as long as the substances are talked about in a intelligent way, and not advertized or advocated.

That's my two cents on the subject.

Eetu Pellonpää wrote: goose wrote: Every person has his limit, every sensible person knows it. This is true, but without emphasizing neither opinnions against or towards drugs, I fear it's difficult to see where "the thin red line" is drawn until you have passed it. So be carewful what ever sh*t you dump to yourself.

That's definitely a valid point - but I wasn't talking exclusively about a physical limit - more about how much/what an individual feels comfortable with taking - I'm sure some people are happy to die a few years younger if they can drink and smoke all their lives, and that's their own choice - I'm too scared of death to think like that, and so it's nearly always well over six or eight weeks between taking any drugs other than alcohol - perhaps not last week but I was on holiday in the Netherlands . I think I'd definitely better not live there  and it reinforces my anti-decriminalisation stance no end.

nacho wrote: So please, don't do any drugs if you don't know how to cope with them...

Every person has his limit, every sensible person knows it.

abyssyinfinity wrote: ...And notice I took only cannas 2-3 times for year, when I met a particular friend of mine, I hate cocaine & other drugs (Ecstasy and similar drugs are only for losers disco-ravers and similia..), so my only drug is                        PROG                        MUSIC

what would happen if you overdose on prog? 

can anyone give examples of people who have come close to death overdosing on yes or genesis?  I came close a few years back with Camel.  I battled for 2 weeks in a coma, finally realising that a song within a song was only a song and not actually a song within a song even though I thought it was a song which was within a song given that it's name is song within a song.