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Blimey!  I saw this band once at the Walthamstow Standard, early 90s, very out of sync with the times. Nice to see they have a fan base.
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Talk about resurrecting an old thread !!
I only have Battle Scars and Beyond The Realms.........the latter blows me sox off. Battle Scars lacks something....?
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I think that "Nothing Is Written" is very good and unestimating album. Very strong record.
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Originally posted by chenguang1228 chenguang1228 wrote:

 since I came here I noticed neo prog gets no love. Makes me a little sad. Arena, IQ and Pallas... come on Peoples! wake up,this is ok miu miu bags


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Originally posted by rdtprog rdtprog wrote:

Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

It is interesting how the heavyest neo-prog bands plays so on the border to prog metal, like Arena, newer Pallas and some of Galahads guitar sound is quite in the border betweem heavy prog rock and progressive metal.

Like a link (missing or not) i think that is facinating.
 
I have my theorie that for exmple Saga is very symphonic but the guitar is very soaring, heavy and fast,    I can't stop thinking that both Queensryche and Dream Theater is partly influenced by Saga.
 
Arena is also very heavy and symphonic + they are on the frinch prog metal. some of the Dreams of Men by Pallas is closely related to prog metal....  


Completely agree. Great post.

Even some of the IQ stuff (Sub... and Dark Matter)... some parts are definitely on the side of prog metal.

Can you recommend some others in such vein?


Yes it's the modern influence on a lot of Neo-Prog bands. Magenta for the fist time on their last cd have use the metal influence in some passages. Even Pendragon,  wich is consider a light neo-prog band have used  in the Pure cd some metal influence. That is a natural evolution of the Neo-Prog band since Marillion with heavy guitars and a bigger sound in the drums. That was a change compare to the more acoustic side of Genesis.


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Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

It is interesting how the heavyest neo-prog bands plays so on the border to prog metal, like Arena, newer Pallas and some of Galahads guitar sound is quite in the border betweem heavy prog rock and progressive metal.

Like a link (missing or not) i think that is facinating.
 
I have my theorie that for exmple Saga is very symphonic but the guitar is very soaring, heavy and fast,    I can't stop thinking that both Queensryche and Dream Theater is partly influenced by Saga.
 
Arena is also very heavy and symphonic + they are on the frinch prog metal. some of the Dreams of Men by Pallas is closely related to prog metal....  


Completely agree. Great post.

Even some of the IQ stuff (Sub... and Dark Matter)... some parts are definitely on the side of prog metal.

Can you recommend some others in such vein?


Yes it's the modern influence on a lot of Neo-Prog bands. Magenta for the fist time on their last cd have use the metal influence in some passages. Even Pendragon,  wich is consider a light neo-prog band have used  in the Pure cd some metal influence. That is a natural evolution of the Neo-Prog band since Marillion with heavy guitars and a bigger sound in the drums. That was a change compare to the more acoustic side of Genesis.
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 since I came here I noticed neo prog gets no love. Makes me a little sad. Arena, IQ and Pallas... come on Peoples! wake up,this is ok miu miu bags
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Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

lol
 
Galahad is a little too neo-prog for me.



Lolzoers??

Do explain... what's wrong with Galahad? What do you listen to?
 
I listen to the classics and things that expand on the classics. Not the things that redo them. Galahad redoes alot.


But if something is redone well, will you still oppose it for it is not original?
 
Not necessarily. I like alot of clones. Galahad just isn't one of them I like.
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Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

I hope to bring an interview with the band pretty soon.   


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Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

lol
 
Galahad is a little too neo-prog for me.



Lolzoers??

Do explain... what's wrong with Galahad? What do you listen to?
 
I listen to the classics and things that expand on the classics. Not the things that redo them. Galahad redoes alot.


But if something is redone well, will you still oppose it for it is not original?
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

It is interesting how the heavyest neo-prog bands plays so on the border to prog metal, like Arena, newer Pallas and some of Galahads guitar sound is quite in the border betweem heavy prog rock and progressive metal.

Like a link (missing or not) i think that is facinating.
 
I have my theorie that for exmple Saga is very symphonic but the guitar is very soaring, heavy and fast,    I can't stop thinking that both Queensryche and Dream Theater is partly influenced by Saga.
 
Arena is also very heavy and symphonic + they are on the frinch prog metal. some of the Dreams of Men by Pallas is closely related to prog metal....  


Completely agree. Great post.

Even some of the IQ stuff (Sub... and Dark Matter)... some parts are definitely on the side of prog metal.

Can you recommend some others in such vein?
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Go to the list of top 100 neo-prog albums. There are some absolute classics there.


Link please? Let's not forget the fundamentals here... while I am brilliant, I am still a noob to this forum.
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Go to the list of top 100 neo-prog albums. There are some absolute classics there.
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Great to see Everon mentioned!
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Knight Area - Pendragon - Iluvatar - Introitus - Metamorphosis - Cosmos - Moongarden - The Watch - The D Project - Ajalon - Ageness - Abel Ganz - Millenium - Breathing Space - CYAN - Collage - Disperse - EZRA - Everon - Final Conflict - Flamborough Head - IZZ - Jadis - K2 - Lazuli - La Tulipe Noire - Legend - Sunchild - Martigan - Satelite - Shakaray and ........
I recommend you that list. I have all of them and realy I enjoy to listening them. I can write another list for you but I think its enaough. Hey guys if I forget any of important Neo Prog bands please tall me. Thanks
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Galahad is great. My favortie are Sleepers and Empire... The singers made a audition to replace Fish, but i think is personnality wasn't what Marillion was looking for. As for Magenta, very good also. (The first double cd and the latest.) Another Neo prog band that  deserves  more attention is Sylvan. Melodic, emotional with great vocals!
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Lots of Love for Galahad from my side, especially "Empires never last" and on this album is also one of my favourite tracks, "I could be god"! Brilliant stuff!
Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus
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It is interesting how the heavyest neo-prog bands plays so on the border to prog metal, like Arena, newer Pallas and some of Galahads guitar sound is quite in the border betweem heavy prog rock and progressive metal.

Like a link (missing or not) i think that is facinating.
 
I have my theorie that for exmple Saga is very symphonic but the guitar is very soaring, heavy and fast,    I can't stop thinking that both Queensryche and Dream Theater is partly influenced by Saga.
 
Arena is also very heavy and symphonic + they are on the frinch prog metal. some of the Dreams of Men by Pallas is closely related to prog metal....  


Edited by aginor - May 14 2011 at 01:35
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Originally posted by Eloy82 Eloy82 wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

lol
 
Galahad is a little too neo-prog for me.



Lolzoers??

Do explain... what's wrong with Galahad? What do you listen to?
 
I listen to the classics and things that expand on the classics. Not the things that redo them. Galahad redoes alot.
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I hope to bring an interview with the band pretty soon.   
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