Opinions on why some don't like prog metal?

Oh, that explains things.

Because the term includes the word "metal." Also, to my ear, there's little subtlety. There's little to recommend it either although I've heard a few standout numbers. I'm sorry. I came up as a teenager during the '70s.

Edited by Rednight - November 12 2015 at 10:46

TeleStrat wrote: I do not like the death growl vocals but at the same time I want the vocals to be as heavy and gritty as possible. To me, there's no place for honey coated vocals in hard rock/metal, even on the ballads. I also prefer the screaming limited to occasional accent or emphasis. I never get tired of vocalist like Pepper Keenan from C.O.C./Down or James Hetfield.

dr wu23 wrote: Kati wrote: dr wu23 wrote: BaldJean wrote: but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?   Now.....what kind of 'dirt' are you referring to..?     hahahaha! that wink alone lol Dr. Wu hahaha!!!   Well...there are many kinds of dirt. But I knew what she meant and I agree. People I know used to say that the Stones would sound better if their earlier stuff wasn't so dirty sounding . And I always responded that that was their charm and the muddy production sound was what made their rock n roll interesting and their trademark so to speak. For me the death growl vocals and the chug chug guitar sound are not pleasing to my ear but other types of prog metal especially the more melodic stuff is ok with me.

dr wu23 wrote: BaldJean wrote: but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?   Now.....what kind of 'dirt' are you referring to..?

Andy Webb wrote: Now don't you go and say "But I like prog metal!!" I know some people do, but a lot of people don't. Why? In my opinion, I think many of the classic prog fans don't like the heavier music tainting their genre. If you like Harry Potter, Prog Metal is like half-bloods: where classic prog rock is pure-blood and metal is mud-blood-- when the two mix, the pure-bloods don't like it. Prog metal is essentially the combination of bands that most classic fans don't like, such as Metallica or Slayer, with the bands they do, such as Yes, Genesis or Rush. The resulted product is a tainted one. You wouldn't eat something that had dirt on it would you?  What are your thoughts?

not true; I like some really heavy prog. High Tide are very heavy, and Hawkwind can be too. and I like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Budgie or Black Sabbath. especially Budgie are extremely heavy.

Guru Guru's "Hinten", one of my favorite albums, is very heavy. some tracks of Amon Düül 2 are very heavy as well. frumpy and Atlantis can be very heavy as well (the latter are not in the archives, though Friede an I believe they definitely belong into prog-related, especially due to their first album). Wishbone Ash, another band I like, definitely has a heavy side as well.

but I dislike the overall sound of prog metal. it is too clean. where is the dirt that is in my opinion necessary to make an album really heavy?


Edited by BaldJean - November 11 2015 at 05:47

Pain of Salvation and Opeth plus Liquid Tension Experiment etc. are classified prog metal aren't they?I do I love them, but I don't like many other metal bands.  

ok there are some fabulous prog metal around this forum. which I`ve had many enjoyable hours of music playing...

SteveG wrote: Overruled! Full speed ahead!

I don't like metal. Full stop