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    Posted: October 04 2010 at 08:58
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

there's Christian McBride listening and talking about a cool selection of tracks by Fank Zappa, Tony Williams, McCoy Tyner, Miles, Hendix.... from the same year as well.

 
McBride seems a born-again jazz fusionist. 3 or 4 years ago I read of him  (in a interview tied to an album of fusion tunes) as a young musician being very much influenced by the 80's movement to post bop, ala Wynton Marsalis - in which rock, electricity and anything attributable to 70's fusion was completely unacceptable and avoided. And then McBride heard Weather Report, and all fell away from his eyes and ears, so now he happily encompasses fusion (and the electric bass) in his repertoise.
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^One of the reasons I find the issue genuinely interesting is that the text, inteviews, thoughts and look on these albums and the whole period, both feels and actually is kinda new, positive and fresh. I'm no specialist, but the jazzpurist dismissal of this style and period seems to have been kept very much alive by mags like JazzTimes and Downbeat. And atleast in this issue they seem to address and acknowledge this.
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Points: 20239 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2010 at 13:41
certainly looks interesting enough for me to track it down....
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 04:49
^I sort of agree with you, but this issue is not about the sounds of the 70's, its about the year 1970. Keith Jarret didn't even release an album in 1970. Its an anniversay issue, and I think its positive that they've chosen to focus on the beginning of jazzrock-fusion.

And I'm more than happy to read about largely ignored projects such as Mwandishi for starters.

Btw: Afric Pepperbird is one of their selected ten essential avantgarde albums of 1970.
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Points: 17497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2010 at 19:12
Hi,
 
If the magazine took more shots and listens to other jazz scenes, I would say that is mandatory and important. If not ... I would pass.
 
I just find it sad to continuously see these publications leave behind so many artists that deserve a listen and a comment ... simply because some of them are not black and their name is not Miles!
 
There is a lot of jazz, and there has been, for 50 years in Europe, and folks like Jan Garbarek, Terje Rypdal, Miroslav Vitous, Egberto Gismonti (and we haven't even started listing Japanese jazz folks!)  and and so many others have been playing it for just as long ... and have helped jazz make the stamp in music history that it has ... but sadly ... those magazines, like Bass Player and Guitar Player ... have never been very good at listing and discussing and even applauding those other massive musicians out there ... that deserve the credit.
 
Heck ... I didn't even see Keith Jarrett listed ... and that's not only insane ... it is sad, as he is one of the best American pianists of the last 50 years regardless of music style, and he has done it all except Chuck Berry I think!
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Points: 12812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2010 at 04:09
Jazzwise magazine, likewise, has a couple (of relatively half-hearted) acknowledgements of the 40th Anniversary of BB's release - although in one, its review of the "complete" (how many of ths ehave there been) BB set, it is awarded one of ftheir very rare 5 stars. What of the American jazz journals
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Thanks for the link, looks like good reading.
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2010 at 17:35
Their 40 year anniversary September issue is a  really is a cutting edge jazzrockfusion special. Which is about as close to a progrelated issue a jazzmagazine can make.

The three interesting, lenghty main articles are about:

-Bitches Brew Sessions & electric Miles
-Herbie Hancocks Mwandishi Sextet (and the album)
-Freddie Hubbard: Red Clay

Interviews with Holland, Jonette, McLaughlin, Hancock, Priester, Hart... basically everyone involved still alive.

Bonuses articles are a nice selection of ten essential avant-garde recordings of 1970 (with albums by Alice Coltrane, Art Ensemble of Chicago, Marion Brown, Sonny Sharrock, Pharoah Sanders, Sun Ra, Garbarek...) + there's Christian McBride listening and talking about a cool selection of tracks by Fank Zappa, Tony Williams, McCoy Tyner, Miles, Hendix.... from the same year as well.



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