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Svetonio
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Topic: Ray Manzarek: Favorite The Doors keyboard moment Posted: November 02 2011 at 23:23 |
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 02 2011 at 12:19 | |
Have always rated Ray Manzarek as among the alltime great rock keyboardists. The organ work in When the Music's Over, electric piano of Riders of the Storm, even the boogie-woogie piano of Roadhouse Blues and the harpsichord-sounding work in Love Her Madly come to mind. Much more versatile than he's given credit for, IMO. |
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giselle
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 09:40 | |
Its wrong to suggest that Manzarek was less of a keyboard player than the more obviously virtuoso players like Emerson, Ritchie, Wakeman etc; people seem to forget that Manzarek also played the bass with his left hand. He did a fantastic job of both music parts at once.
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NickHall
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 04:26 | |
yeah, Light my Fire solo work and loads of great stuff
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Horizons
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Posted: October 15 2011 at 17:13 | |
The overlooked "Yes, The River Knows"
Great subtle playing by all members, but the jazzy keys really just sweep me off my feet. Edited by Horizons - October 15 2011 at 17:13 |
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jean-marie
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Posted: October 15 2011 at 10:33 | |
It might be Rider on the storm....but not that sure
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Posted: October 14 2011 at 21:53 | |
Ditto (all of it, but especially the bold) |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 14 2011 at 19:53 | |
With a group like the Doors, who exemplified the phenomenon of 'the whole being greater than the sum of its parts' there's a danger in drawing spurious conclusions about the constituent elements maybe not standing up to closer scrutiny.
Manzarek was clearly no technical virtuoso (interestingly, Krieger was on classical guitar) but such would have been inappropriate for the band's music. So for me Ray was a brilliant 'feel' player who unerringly conjured up the appropriate mood and textures to best display Morrison's vocals. He was also clearly an accomplished blues, boogie and stride player as evidenced by his piano on People Are Strange, Roadhouse Blues and Alabama Song (the list goes on) Take Densmore, Kreiger, Morrison or Manzarek out of the volatile equation and the Doors would just sound like a thousand other mediocre Acid Rock bands from the west coast. |
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: October 14 2011 at 17:47 | |
for me it has to be Light My Fire
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assume the power 1586/14.3 |
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: October 14 2011 at 15:55 | |
Ray is definetly in my top 5! Light My Fire, The End, The Crystal Ship, The Soft Parade, L.A Woman, Tell All The People, When The Music's Over, Riders On The Storm, The W.A.S.P (Texas Radio and The Big Beat), Roadhouse Blues, Spanish Caravan, the list goes on....
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Gooner
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Posted: September 10 2010 at 21:47 | |
I prefer Ray's solo work to The Doors. I met him briefly this past Summer. Very nice man.
"Solar Boat" from The Golden Scarab.
...but if I had to take a Doors track where Ray shines, I'd have to say "Not To Touch The Earth".
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moshkito
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Posted: August 31 2010 at 21:13 | |
Hi,
I think Ray had a hard time coming up with the music that Jim wanted to back his words, but to his credit he did it and came up with a fabulous body of work, very little of which is conventional in any sense of the word, and the use of the instrumentation was always tasteful and very careful to ensure that Jim got his words in and out and it did not deter from the words themselves. And that is the mark of a very intelligent musician that can appreciate wordery that is way more than just a song and a clever line about sweet little sixteen that most rock bands were so eager to write about ... and still are, except it's done in rap with different words!
It's a shame that a Wakeman would be considered "progressive" because of his synthesizers, and a Manzarek would not ... specially when it comes down to it, Manzarek's body of work vastly out numbers the work Wakeman did with his band, before he decided he was a star ... at least the Doors knew the difference between a star and an idiot and preferred to honor Jim and the music with the respect, dedication and inteligence that most of it was all about.
Sadly, most audiences only remember the hits! Not the music!
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Posted: July 31 2010 at 09:06 | |
THIS!
and THIS!
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God Was A Mellotron
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Posted: July 31 2010 at 07:57 | |
Imho, the two fast organ solos in Take It As It Comes are pretty hard to beat
Manzarek may not be on a par with Minnear, Emerson and Wakey technically speaking, but he's got the psych groove and unique sound!
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 14:53 | |
r u kidding me???
solo/lightmyballs
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rod65
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 12:11 | |
I agree: Krieger could not have been replaced. He was not a generic guitarist by any means, and his creative contributions were, as you point out, important both for their musical content and for their impact on the band's career.
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 11:58 | |
Manzarek's style did define The Doors, once they were established. And I didn't jump on this thread to bash him, either. But if "Light My Fire" didn't open the door for The Doors that might have become a moot point. Therefore saying Krieger could have easily been replaced is rather questionable.
Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - July 05 2010 at 12:00 |
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rod65
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 11:51 | |
I don't think Manzarek is as skilled a musician as some other keyboardists whose names frequent this site, but he did excel at setting an atmosphere and mood in which boththe lyrics and guitar seemed at times to float. Regarding Robbie Krieger, I agee that he is a gifted musician. He was quite young when they made their first record, and I think his playing really matured as they progressed. I've heard some of his post-Doors work and found it quite good as well.
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 11:35 | |
The man whose name escapes you is Robby Krieger and he wrote their biggest hits, such as "Light My Fire" and "Love Her Madly." I think he was the best member of the band, a textbook case of an overnight sensation. And it was "Light My Fire" that made them one. Personally, I think Manzarek is overrated and don't care for his keyboard work.
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Posted: July 04 2010 at 23:00 | |
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