A major flaw in our judgment!!!

Joseth On Kings wrote: Ghandi 2 wrote: I don't think CTTE deserves to be in the top 10, and I'm certainly not going to sit here and let you say that Have A Cigar isn't prog, but I also am not going to write you an essay, so I will sum up my positions succintly: Shut up, you. Nobody cares. You know if you say that nobody cares, then why do you care?

Snow Dog wrote: darqdean wrote: [ That doesn't work when there are only 5 marks to be awarded - it's too course.   You mean coarse of course.

of course, silly of me - if only this damn spell checker checked context as well

I hate to sound childish, but it's unfair to limit the number of reviews an album is allowed to have. At the very least it would cause a little stir. Would we have to have a lottery to decide who would review? Or would we all submit reviews to an admin, who would then pick the 50 best. I daresay the admins wouldn't like that job, especially with any Yes, DT, Crimson, Floyd, and Genesis albums. DT's another thing. You'd get 50 reviews before anyone got a legitimate copy of the album. Just let people review what they want. The odds are good people who start with the more "mainstream" artists will move deeper. That's what happened to me.

StyLaZyn wrote: thellama73 wrote: I always makee a point of reviewing albums with a small number of ratings. I don't think I have anything to add about Close to the Edge. However, there's no reason to forbid other people from reviewing it if that's what makes them happy.   Perhaps in terms of the bell curve and the law of averages, data points need to be thrown out to provide a more accurate mean.  I know this is done in science to keep outliers in check.

I always makee a point of reviewing albums with a small number of ratings. I don't think I have anything to add about Close to the Edge. However, there's no reason to forbid other people from reviewing it if that's what makes them happy.

Ricochet wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Ricochet wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: [QUOTE=darqdean]   I couldn't agree more.Or if an album has say 200 ratings, why rate it more?      Because the site isn't setting any restriction at all to those who want to review an album (whether it's in the top, with hundred of reviews, or with no reviews, ignored by anybody). Nor does it think of what reviewers are oriented towards (meaning that there is no telling if a fan of prog is keen on all these popular albums or likes to go through more various and obscure styles). In other words, it just can't be stopped or restricted/directed. There is no abuse, there isn't even an unnatural thing.   So what you are saying is a ratings bias is totally acceptable.     I'm saying that MIster X - fan of progressive rock - has his one awarded chance to review an album (whether that's Close To The Edge or Cardeilhac, Wish You Were Here or Sebkha Chott etc.) Except if he abuses by reviewing, his review is valid and welcomed (whether that would be the first review of the album or the 500th).

Ricochet wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: [QUOTE=darqdean]   I couldn't agree more.Or if an album has say 200 ratings, why rate it more?      Because the site isn't setting any restriction at all to those who want to review an album (whether it's in the top, with hundred of reviews, or with no reviews, ignored by anybody). Nor does it think of what reviewers are oriented towards (meaning that there is no telling if a fan of prog is keen on all these popular albums or likes to go through more various and obscure styles). In other words, it just can't be stopped or restricted/directed. There is no abuse, there isn't even an unnatural thing.

darqdean wrote: stop reviewing and rating the bands in the top 100 start reviewing and rating the albums with few ratings.

darqdean wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Paradox wrote: The more popular an album or artist is, the more reviews they will get and therefore certain albums will be elevated through the ranks. Obviously if enough people value an album so much then it can't be overrated. It is surely rated so highly for a reason, whether or not you see it.   Popularity pushes people to buy certain albums.  This exposure is why say 95% of the users here own WYWH, versus the 25% who might own, say, a UK album.   Are albums over-rated? I'd rather say the lesser known albums are not given a fair shake.   Unfortunately, lesser known does not mean they are necessarily good. Some albums are lesser known for a reason. In other cases it is down to the record companies not promoting the product or the music press simply ignoring it because it wasn't flavour of the month. All the bands listed on this web-site have recognition, browse any sub-genre, pick a band and choose an album - they are all listed alphabetically - no ranking there.   The real exposure issue is not about the "big-five" bands vs the rest, but about all the bands listed vs those that are not.    However, this does not distract from the certainty that cream always rises to the top.

Ghandi 2 wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Well then.  OK.  I always thought it was .  What is advanced composition? Longer, more thought out, using different techniques besides a verse riff, a chorus riff, and a bridge guitar solo. Sheer technical complexity is often used but is not necessary;

Edited by StyLaZyn - June 28 2007 at 09:07