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    Posted: June 06 2007 at 10:08
They are called Gentle Giant without an "s" at the end Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2007 at 04:16
Are you, like, saying that Pink Floyd inspired Focus and Tull? I'm confused. But intrigued.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 23:28
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

I say you listen to every opinion here. Then when your head stops spinning, put on a CD or record & let that spin for a while. Then go back to your original idea, which seemed interesting & best of all, it looked like you had put more thought into it than most , if not all of the resulting posts.Kansas is the # 1 US prog band. Popular, yes; but check Echolyn, is there a certain mid-west influence ? The neo phase was made up in good part by the groups you mention, so again it fits well with your original idea. I pray for your first intention, I hope for your perseverance, & I await the results with impatience. Go get 'em !


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 21:29
I say you listen to every opinion here. Then when your head stops spinning, put on a CD or record & let that spin for a while. Then go back to your original idea, which seemed interesting & best of all, it looked like you had put more thought into it than most , if not all of the resulting posts.
Kansas is the # 1 US prog band. Popular, yes; but check Echolyn, is there a certain mid-west influence ? The neo phase was made up in good part by the groups you mention, so again it fits well with your original idea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Did anyone notice a certain prog development in Spain (especially the Prog Andaluz), Italy (RPI), and Japan ( featuring keyboard wizard Toshio Egawa)? In  my opinion these 'movements' are not less worth to be mentioned than the neo-prog!
 
Also, dutch prog (do you have a name for that?): Focus (huge in the 70's with 5 top 30 albums and 2 top 20 singles in the UK) and Rick van der Linden's Ekseption and Trace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 20:09
I'll add to what the others have said.

Kansas, Dixie Dregs, Happy the Man, Saga,  Pallas, Pendragon (and John Wetton, Bill Bruford solo) are all far to irrelevant to get included in this small time line.  Some of the germans started their own scene ca. 69. As early as the brits, and earlier than Genesis and Yes released any prog. And Van der Graaf were just as early as both of them.

Really, apart from Zappa (maybe Beefheart, Mahavishnu & The Residents, not many US bands are that important.

And what's this line from Pink Floyd through/kraut/space/electronic to Kansas about!!??

Your 1990 to today choices of bands is the strangest I've ever seen.

If you want to make it more complete, you also have to include more genres.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:56
Did anyone notice a certain prog development in Spain (especially the Prog Andaluz), Italy (RPI), and Japan ( featuring keyboard wizard Toshio Egawa)? In  my opinion these 'movements' are not less worth to be mentioned than the neo-prog!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:48
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i just spotted Amon Dull. It's Amon Düül


Ha ha ha!LOL

Most ironic misspelling ever.

Dare we infer anything?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:13
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

i just spotted Amon Dull. It's Amon Düül

You've never listened to their music, eh Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:48
Thanks everyone!
I'll make the changes and I'll show the final result.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:30

At the risk of being a dampener, it is a start - but I'm afraid to give it structure (and flow) through the generations of prog bands, lots more time and input is necessary. My experience is: ~5 years ago I started on a project to examine Soft Machine's discography and line-ups, (drawing parallels with Miles Davis's jazz fusion output), thinking it would take a couple of hours -  over a full working week  was necessary  (and then  in the  4 years since over 10 new Machine albums have appeared, making it incomplete). Using the Machine grapevine in the UK, I was happily surprised to find  Hugh Hopper proof reading and correcting it, then approving it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:26
If this is a prog family tree (technically not a timeline), then it might be less condecending towards certain bands to have general styles producing other general styles (like symphonic prog morphing into neo-prog) and general eras of each genre (i.e. when symphonic prog began to become more pop oriented [Yes and Genesis], Crimson becoming more electronic/stripped down in the 80s).  A lot of bands have multiple influences--I remember reading that Genesis had the cover of ItCCK hanging on the wall as inspiration when they were recording one of their early albums (can't remember which one).
 
It would be a neat chart to produce, but would also be a large undertaking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:55
i just spotted Amon Dull. It's Amon Düül
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:51

Also, you have Yes begetting Crimson, yet Crimson has its own boldface to the right. Plus, ELP shares far more with Yes and Genesis than they do to Crimso, though the VDGG parallel is correct. Also, the Italian scene only gets a little blurb, even though they created some of the most acclaimed prog, at least PFM and Banco.

 

Misspellings: Jimmy Henrix (Jimi), Vadergraaf (already discussed), Jeethro Tull (Jethro), Gentle Giants (Giant), Tangerine=Dreams (Tangerine Dream), Aeyron (Ayreon), Sposck's Beard (Spock's), The Tagent (Tangent), Flower King (Kings), Marillon (Marillion), Fate Warning (Fates), and Show Gallery (Shadow).

These are all the ones I could find. Also, capitalize band names and use the full names (you abbreviate the Italian bands) unless the band uses the abbreviation i.e. OSI.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:44
This makes little sense. For the 90s, are you putting up the names of 70s bands that still play, cause that's kinda unnecessary, plus Pink Floyd stopped putting out new material, and Genesis and ELP had long before abandoned prog rock, so they don't really count. If you're going by band longevity, might i suggest more of a bar graph visual with more of a fixed timeline?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:30
Which direction does time flow in?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:09
Some misspellings and generally hard to understand but a nice try.

Why are the 90s filled with 70s and 80s bands?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 10:52
Is Vadergraff taken? By mispelling you created one hell of a name for a band... Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2007 at 09:45
Originally posted by jikai55 jikai55 wrote:

Nice efforts, but lots of mistakes. Jimi Hendrix died in the 70's :p
Thanks
I know I made a lot mistakes, the problem is that we all know how extented the prog- world is and it was taking me too long!!!!!!!!LOL
 Well I guess It is not done yet!!
I just want to see the reactions. Also what are the mistake?
 besides the misspelling.!!!


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