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Posted: April 20 2007 at 19:22

Thanks, Tarcísio!!!

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Posted: April 20 2007 at 19:04

HI, Eugene:

You are welcome! I do~´t know which band is next, but if you have any trouble with it that I can help, or some difficulty with the language, just send me a message. It´ll be a pleasure to give a hand any time. And congratulations for the good and quick work done.

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Posted: April 20 2007 at 10:08

Thanks in turn, Tarcísio, for all the information you've brought!

It was very helpful.

...plus I earned some additional knowledge about Portuguese...

Which band is next?

Eugene

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Posted: April 20 2007 at 10:00

HI, Eugene:

Yes, this is a peculiar case, but I agree it should be changed to a live album category, even if it was no intend to be one.

Anyway, I guess with that we are done here about the Mutantes discography. I think all errors and omissions, as far as I can see now, were rectified. I should thank you for your patience and hard work, and everybody else who helped along the way specially Akim, Rivertree and Atkingani for their invaluable information and add ons (you made it all much easier for me!).

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Posted: April 20 2007 at 01:08

Of course I figured that. It was quite apparent...

The case of this album is a peculiar one. It was recorded live, but it wasn't intended to be a live show.

Well, I shall change the status to "Live", but it always can be changed back...

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Posted: April 19 2007 at 15:01

By the way, Ao vivo in portuguese means Live. In case you did not figure that already

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Posted: April 17 2007 at 09:54

HI, Eugene:

Ao vivo (1976) is a live album, but it has only new, unreleased, songs on it. At the time the budget given to the band for the recording was so low they decided to record the album live to cut the expenses. They were never satisfied with the results - a lot of solos and jams were cut by the producer - but there were nothing they could do.

I think a lot of people guess it must be a studio album due to the fact that there are only new songs on it, but iti is in fact live (see the cover shots).

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Posted: April 16 2007 at 14:58

Great, Tarcísio!

Thank you very much for the clarification.

The line-up of the single is updated now.

By the way, what live album do you refer to? Ao Vivo (1976)? It is stated as a studio album currently...

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Posted: April 16 2007 at 14:44

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Hi, Tarcísio!

1. Ao Vivo line-up is added, thanks.

2. There is a single called Cavaleiros Negros / Tudo Bem / Balada Do Amigo here in PA, is this what you mean?

Its line-up looks currently like:

- Sergio Dias / guitars & vocals
- Rui Motta / drums
- Paul de Castro / bass
- Luciano / vocal ...

Is this line-up wrong? If it is, I'll replace it with the one you have posted. There's no problem with that -- I just want to be sure not to erase any useful information.

3. I repeat one of my questions -- in album O "A" E O "Z" the first track appears currently as " "A" E O "Z" ". Is this right? Shouldn't it be similar to the title of the album?

Thanks in advance.

Eugene

Hi, Eugene:

Yes, you´re right. The title of the Cd is " O A E O Z" but the first track is listed as "A" e o "Z". I don´t realy know why, maybe it was just a joke, although in portuguese those two titles mean just the same.

About the single the confusion is very common. The single Cavaleiros Negos/Tudo Bem/Balada Do Amigo was released around the time of their Live album, but it was recorded quite before that, since it has the same line up as the band who playes on Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol. I too thought it had the personell the live LP of 1976, but this is not the case. When Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol was rereleased as CD, the single was added as bonus tracks and it featured the original single cover on the booklet, which credits the same musicians as the LP, thus leaving little doubt of who played on it. Thanks to Akim, who owns the CD, for the information!

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Posted: April 16 2007 at 14:05

Hi, Tarcísio!

1. Ao Vivo line-up is added, thanks.

2. There is a single called Cavaleiros Negros / Tudo Bem / Balada Do Amigo here in PA, is this what you mean?

Its line-up looks currently like:

- Sergio Dias / guitars & vocals
- Rui Motta / drums
- Paul de Castro / bass
- Luciano / vocal ...

Is this line-up wrong? If it is, I'll replace it with the one you have posted. There's no problem with that -- I just want to be sure not to erase any useful information.

3. I repeat one of my questions -- in album O "A" E O "Z" the first track appears currently as " "A" E O "Z" ". Is this right? Shouldn't it be similar to the title of the album?

Thanks in advance.

Eugene

Edited by Fassbinder - April 16 2007 at 14:05

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Posted: April 16 2007 at 09:45

With thanks to Akim for the help on the last one!

Cheers buddy!

TArcísio Moura

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Posted: April 16 2007 at 07:15

Hi, Eugene:

And to top it all, I´d like to send the line up for the single Cavaleiros Negros (1976).

Sérgio Dias - Guitars, Lead Vocals.

Antonio Pedro Medeiros - Bass, vocals.

Túlio Mourão - Keyboards, vocals.

Rui Motta - Drums, percussion, vocals.

Well, I think this copletes their discography, at least their major releases.

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TArcísio

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Posted: April 12 2007 at 09:42

HI, Eugene:

As for the Line up for the Mutants Ao Vivo (1976), here it is:

Sérgio Dias - Guitars, Lead Vocals.

Luciano Alves - Keyboards, vocals.

Paul De Castro - Bass, Violin, Vocals

Rui Motta - Drums, vocals.

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Tarcísio

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 18:58

Fellows,

To have the album titled "Tecnicolor" and the track titled "Technicolor" is probably a typical Mutantes joke! They were crazy (and still are) and in this case, follow your common sense (and CDs information, indeed).

Edited by Atkingani - April 11 2007 at 18:59

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 18:57

Rivertree wrote:

Tarcisio Moura wrote:

The song is the same, and it will remain the same (excuse the pun!) regardless of the title, much less a single letter.

Hmmh - my problem is I'm not satisfied with cases which are not solved. Ouch

But I agree, Tarcísio - it's not that important - there are other things to care about ...

Hi, Uwe:

I understand. It annoys me too. /still I think we have bigger issues concerning their records. Anyway, I respect people like you, who are of great help. And Akin, who gave me a big help with the O A E O Z line up. It is almost over, thank god

Cheers

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 18:47

So...

The line-up for O "A" E O "Z" is updated. Thanks both akin and Tarcisio! By the way, the first track is called " "A" E O "Z" ", is it right? Shouldn't it be similar to the album's title?

Covers are updated. Thanks, Uwe!

About the "Tec(h?)nicolor" track now... I agree with Uwe that the difference between the album title and the track title is non-sensical. But, we learn from the single review we have that the album title was changed from Technicolor to Tecnicolor. What we doesn't learn from this review, is whether the track title was changed or not. Therefore, by the "presumption of innocence", we may suppose that the track title remained with an "h" in it.

Eugene

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 16:21

Tudo Foi Feito Pelo Sol

Os Mutantes

Mutantes

A Divina Comedia Ou Ando Meio Desligado

Ao Vivo

O "A" e o "Z"

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 14:06

Tarcisio Moura wrote:

The song is the same, and it will remain the same (excuse the pun!) regardless of the title, much less a single letter.

Hmmh - my problem is I'm not satisfied with cases which are not solved. Ouch

But I agree, Tarcísio - it's not that important - there are other things to care about ...

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 09:49

akin wrote:

Tarcisio Moura wrote:

HI, Eugene:

Well, Fot the next Mutantes CD, O A E O Z (recorded em 1973, but only released in 1992) the line up is:

Arnaldo Dias Baptista: Keyboards, Vocals

Sérgio Dias Baptista: Guitars, vocals, sitar.

Liminha: Bass, Vocals.

Dinho: Drums, Percussion.

Cheers

Tarcísio

In fact this album has the line-up, including the correct instruments they played (which keyboards and guitars, for example).

The line-up as stated in the cd booklet is:

- Arnaldo Baptista / mellotron, hammond organ, hohner clavinet, cello and vocals
- Sérgio Dias / régulus guitars, fender stratocaster, 12-string acoustic guitar, sitar, vocals
- Liminha / bass, acoustic guitar, vocals
- Dinho Leme / drums, tabla, vocals

HI, Akin:

You´re right. Since I don´t have the CD booklet I simplified it (it was better than to leave with nothing like it was in PA). Thanks for giving the detailed line up and instruments played! All help is wlecome.

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Posted: April 11 2007 at 09:43

Rivertree wrote:

Fassbinder wrote:

The only question is the title of the track with the same name. Tarcisio says his sourse calls it "Technicolor", as it appears currently in PA relevant pages.

For me it makes no sense to have a title track which differs to the album title.
It is terribly confusing Confused

this link offers the lyrics and contains both versions of the title
TECNICOLOR letra (Mutantes) Angry

HI, Uwe:

Sorry, I disagree. I don´t think ti is that confusing. One letter is not that important. Usually I folow what the label ays. And so far I havnt seen the CD. On the other hand all my sources say it is Technicolor. It´s a matter of choice, really. I tend to think like /eugene. The song is the same, and it will remain the same (excuse the pun!) regardless of the title, much less a single letter.

Best regards

Tarcísio