India and Christianity

Reed Lover wrote: ivan_2068 wrote: Please Maani, Anglicans uphold The Catholic Apostolic faith ( http://www.cofe.anglican.org/faith/anglican/ ), Anglicans and accept the Nicen Creed (the same page), what else can you ask?   All Saints' is a community of ordinary people who, since 1861, have worshipped God the Father through his Son Jesus, in the power of the Holy Spirit, and have lived out the Christian life in a rich Anglican Catholic tradition. Iván   Ivan, although I cant be sure, are you not confusing the adjective "catholic" with the noun "Catholic"? This is a common mistake especially when quoting The Nicaen Creed. "catholic" small "c" means: "all-embracing" and not "relating to the Catholic Church".

Now whose using other people's points???? Eh ????

DallasBryan wrote: Uhh.... question? Dont know which groups prescribe to this ritual but it seems some of the following may apply/ Anglicans, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians Question, By reciting the Apostle's Creed aren't you in essence bowing to the Vatican by invoking this at the beginning of service? Confessing all devotion to the Holy Catholic Church. Bowing to Mary, mother of God whether directly or indirectly? God being a god of oaths and covenants. I dont know but what do you guys feel, if you got time to comment.

Sorry DB for skipping over your question.  I'm sure one of the others will correct me on this if I am wrong (being that I wasn't raised Catholic or from a Protestant faith that used the Apostle's Creed) but I have asked this question before and was told that the word "catholic" was the name given to the universal church of Christ.  It is from this that the Roman Catholics take their name.. howver in the Creed, it doesn't mean the "Roman Catholic Church"... it means the universal church of Christ.

From the dictionary 'catholic' means: 1 a often capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the church universal b often capitalized : of, relating to, or forming the ancient undivided Christian church or a church claiming historical continuity from it 2 : COMPREHENSIVE, UNIVERSAL; especially : broad in sympathies, tastes, or interests

^ You'd be pretty well set at Nascar events and the United States Capitol Complex, too!

Seriously, though. Maybe my own outlook clouds my judgement, but neither maani nor Reed have struck me as being excessively pompous...it just looks to me like we're just a bunch of (at least relatively) bright guys who enjoy discussing these things, even to the point of getting a little wound up about them. Nothing really wrong with that, is there? At worst, it's a little pointless...at best, we might actually learn something (both Ivan and maani have posted facts that I found very interesting during this debate).

It also seems like you take some schadenfreude in pointing out when you think the folks who are talking need to be 'taken down a peg' in your estimation. I'm pretty sure that's the thing that sets people off, not that you're a woman who 'dares to speak when the men are talking'. I'm sure there are plenty of men who still think that way, but I don't suspect that it's a widely held view in this little society of ours.

Reed Lover wrote: Hey, it's no fun stood in a force 10 with piss dripping off you,I can vouch for that!

I think that's exactly what Van Morrsion was talking about in "Full Force Gale"

ooo, that's uncalled-for. My apologies to Van the Man and Christians everywhere.

Meh.

I was far more interested in the religious debate than the boring clash of wills or the feminine exodus from the site (which I still think is largely fictional).

I'm not trying to jab at you, threefates, but your words seem to be painting a picture of Christians who can take or leave Christianity as well as nervous little prog girls who can't bear to be on a site with opinionated men (I'm hoping we've come to the point where women can hold their own...and be just as annoying and opinionated as the rest of us!). Your 'victory' over Reed is almost laughably 'stereotypical-female', circa 1950 or so...you have silenced him with an overwhelming avalanche of emotional outbursts which disdain reasonable debate.

Not that I'm letting Reed off the hook, either...he fell neatly into the trap, sacrificing reason for response in kind! Oh well, I've made the same mistake...sometimes you just get tired of yelling into the wind.

threefates wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Shut up you madwoman!!! Please shut up. You are driving me insane with this lunacy. You were already insane.. I'm just helping you face it...

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Reed Lover wrote: Shut up you madwoman!!! Please shut up. You are driving me insane with this lunacy.

You were already insane.. I'm just helping you face it...

Moe: "My wife got me to believe in religion."

Joe:"Really?"

Reed Lover wrote: Btw if you think I would rather be respected by men over women, you are totally deluded!Get out of here!

So you're just the little bully boy on the playground, pulling the little girls pigtails cause you like them...

Yeah, right!  I don't think you know yourself as well as you think you do!

And exactly as I said... you stay away from those you know you can't keep up with... more of that Debate 101 I guess!