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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17445 |
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Yep, the sh*tty medleys. Can't stand that. Medleys are just the worst. Genesis too. Alex minimal? Man, I thought he was just smokin' that night, lots of aggressive playing. (Cocaine days?) ![]() Naturally, if I could have chosen the set list myself, it would have been the first three albums played cover to cover....that's my idea of optimal Rush. But we knew we were getting "the new Rush" and so our expectations were very realistic going in. I liked it way better than the Power Windows tour a couple years later, although that time we got to see Marillion open for Rush which was cool. As I recall, they were not that well received by the Rush fans. Edited by Finnforest - 54 seconds ago at 16:38 |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Online Points: 18016 |
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I skipped the GUP tour (I think...?) but did see the PW tour (awesome) and then Presto with the big bunnies ![]() That was my wife's first Rush concert...she liked the bunnies. |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65763 |
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^ ^ Alex was the best thing that year with his cool new minimal style. But "I see red, it hurts my head, must be something that I read" was not Peart's best moment. Even Body Electric's "1 0 0, 1 0 0, 1 in distress" (one of the better things on the album) was a cringe-worthy '80s mech-rock shock when compared to just two years earlier.
Ouch is the word that comes to mind, especially when we went to this show foolishly expecting something close to Signals or MP. Did they play that awful "We know you want to hear some old stuff so we're gonna do an Old Song Medley" thing when you saw them ? Pain. Edited by Atavachron - 30 minutes ago at 16:09 |
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Signals by 1.25 star.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17445 |
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Well, I saw the Grace tour from the 3rd row on Alex's side, and "disappointing" does not describe our evening nor the other fans around us who were very obviously digging it. Had a total blast. Cheesy haircuts? You got me there. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65763 |
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Never understood the appeal of GUP, it was a shock to the ears of older fans and the tour was disappointing to say the least. Grace under pressure indeed, but hardly graceful, and the pressure came from the band, their dismissal of Terry Brown, cheesy '80s haircuts, and the rejection of their fantastic past.
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Gentle and Giant ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2019 Location: Blackpool Status: Offline Points: 4729 |
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Signals for me. I do quite like GUP, but feel this album was the start of the slide into the 80s sound I wasn't keen on.
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Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19181 |
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More "dated" than Hold Your Fire or Roll the Bones? I think not. ![]() |
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2936 |
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Signals, by far. It's timeless, future-focused, and the best album they ever did.
Grace Under Pressure is the most "dated" Rush album. It's not bad, but it's just "kind of there". If it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't miss it. |
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
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Signals because it has Subdivisions, while Grace Under Pressure does not. Also, I personally can't stand the overprocessed electronic drum sound on GUP.
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So it's not just me! |
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"Christ, where would rock & roll be without feedback?" - D. Gimour
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I confess my ignorance
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19181 |
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Why not Rush vs. Presto? ![]() |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 53420 |
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GUP. It smells like the fabric of an AACR2 steamroller.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17445 |
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For the poll, in my head I was thinking Signals-forward when using the words "by far." But you raise a good point that the two previous albums were also 80s. Taking those two albums into the mix, I would drop the words "by far," yet still I prefer Grace over both of them. Such consistency, punch, and quality songwriting. It is my clear favorite post-Hemispheres and near the top of my overall list. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Online Points: 18016 |
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Signals, as it brings back great memories of my later HS years. I saw that tour as well at the great LA Forum.
Subdivisions is such a great song........That being said GUP is no slouch either. |
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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Grace Under Pressure ahead of Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves, two other 80s releases. You don't see that everyday. |
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Jared ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20706 |
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more of a Signals man these days...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Big Sky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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Both albums are quite good. However, Signals has Subdivisions, Countdown and The Weapon that I rate ahead of any track on Grace Under Pressure.
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My ears dig both.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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