Some time in the past...

Hi,

Classical Rock (not to be confused with the more general ''Classic Rock'' moniker for just about everything in rock that came along around about 1968-1973), Techno Rock and Keyboard Rock were also terms I heard used when growing up. ELP were and still are the most held up example of a ''prog'' band and what the term means (ie it's not meant as a compliment). I think Art-Rock was a term that many bands of that era used to distance themselves from what they considered to be overly technical and bombastic bands such as ELP. However Art rock, although supposedly more cerebral, was arguably more pretentious (although ELP ironically also got lumbered with that criticism when they tried to be more 'arty' as on Works Volume One). I hope my cynical tone is coming through when it comes to this. Ultimately though ''it'' (arty progressive music) is about high level musicianship as far as I'm concerned. You need the tools to build something. Pop musicians only do what they do because they have no capability to do anything different usually being propped up by a producer and a great marketing budget. Ultimately we like to promote actual talent on this site and that includes Supertramp, Kate Bush, David Bowie and 10CC to name a few obvious ones who never were 'prog' at all.

Edited by David_D - January 21 2025 at 07:08

Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog.  That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead. I meant all the bands under "art-rock" were divided and tagged under the three genres mentioned above.  So King Crimson, Rush, Van Der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant weren't removed from the Progarchives along with Art-Rock? Good to know.

Edited by Cristi - January 21 2025 at 01:11

VDGG  release dates:

Also original "mason jar" Canadian cover was precariously die-cut.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'9052474f8c48ebb4',t:'MTczNzQwOTgwOS4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">

Haha. And I thought Crossover Prog was a blanket category. xd

Saperlipopette! wrote: Cristi wrote: Art-rock was not removed but split in three: eclectic, crossover and heavy-prog.  That's a weird way of looking at it. If Art-Rock wasn't removed, it would obviously still be here. Art-Rock was removed from PA. The bands and artists however, were kept and placed in some newly made up sub-genres instead.

I remember that cover when I had vinyl.

^ The USA cover?