Progressive 80s artists: music ahead of its time |
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Spookee
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Hawkwind was a very active band in the 1980s. Ahead of its time, Church of Hawkwind was quite innovative back in 1982. It is probably terribly underrated because of this.
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David_D
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A couple have already been mentioned but anyway: Djam Karet (USA) - Reflections From The Firepool (1989) Fates Warning (USA) - The Spectre Within (1985) The “Gunesh” Ensemble (USSR) - Looking at the Earth (1984) Iconoclasta (Mex) - Reminiscencias (1985) P.L.J. Band (Gre) - Armageddon (1982) Solaris (HUN) - Marsbeli Kronikak (1984) Voivod (CAN) - Nothingface (1989) |
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Spookee
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Begnagrad's 1982 album sounds pretty modern to these ears!
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Lewian
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As mentioned in the Bruford polls, I think that the Bruford's Earthworks albums of the 80s are very fresh, original, and creative. There was a unique warm use of melodic electronic drumming, and a nice fusion of prog, jazz, and more recent electronic elements with a bit of well dosed free experimentation thrown in. Not sure whether this can be called "ahead of its time" as I don't know of many people who took up this kind of thing later, but it was surely unique. (For some reason not so popular around here.)
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progaardvark
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I guess I was lucky to have two FM radio stations in Philadelphia in the 1980s (I grew up there): 93.3 WMMR and 94.1 WYSP. Both of them called themselves "classic rock stations," but they played a fair amount of prog and without them it might have taken me much longer to eventually discover all that great music. For a time, WYSP used to play 4-5 full albums on Sunday nights. They tended to play more "deep tracks" than WMMR, but both stations were played on my radio almost daily. We had another program on another radio station (I think from the University of Pennsylvania) called Star's End that played electronic prog, like Tangerine Dream, Richard Pinhas (remembering songs from his album Iceland), and Mark Shreeve. Those were broadcast late in the evening on Saturdays and I used to put my headphones on and turn out the lights as it was really spacey stuff. I was lucky. I don't know if other urban areas were as lucky. I'm guessing since you think there was a lack of FM stations, maybe other places missed out on this.
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progaardvark
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Over the last decade I've come to appreciate the 1980s more than I had in the past. It was mostly from discovering bands in the RIO/Avant-Prog areas, especially Present -- one of my absolute favorites. It's sad that their 2024 release will be their last, but what an album to end a discography with. It likely will be my #1 in my top 20 of 2024 once I finalize my list.
Also a curiosity that came out in that decade: one of the best symphonic prog albums (in my top 10 at least) from Hungary's Solaris, Marsbéli Krónikák. What a debut! It seemed so out of place in 1984.
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MikeEnRegalia
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^ Agreed, I think it was the other way round. The early PM US bands were influenced by early-80s Maiden, and then Maiden on SSOASS was influenced by them.
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As much as I love the album, the birth of progressive metal did not start with it. USPM bands did that before Maiden (some of them being influenced by Maiden ) All sort of experimentation also was happening in thrash - Watchtower, Mekong Delta, Voivod that would influence other bands later on.
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richardh
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Agree and I also loved and still like Marillion's Seasons End album from 1989. Seemed to capture a lot for me that I felt at the time and an album that estued the typical 'Neo Prog' approach. I see that as being quietly innovative. I mentioned Iron Maiden on the sister thread and would still put them here for Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son. The birth of 'prog metal' perhaps. I would like to mention Jon and Vangelis. I've been listening to them over the last few days and they were making original music that still stands up (Horizon, The Friends Of Mr Cairo and State Of Independence are amazing songs just in their own right) I would agree on Talk Talk as mentioned earlier in the thread but China Crisis were on a par and were guided by Walter Becker. There were other great artsy pop acts such as Japan, A Flock Of Seagulls, Tears For Fears, Propaganda (my personal favourite) and even the likes of Duran Duran (for Save a Prayer), Frankie Goes To Hollywood (Relax and Two Tribes) and Simple Minds (Waterfront) were very interesting at times. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I recently bought it and yes it is very solid. The Devouring and maybe a few others are also highly rated. Unfortunately the Devouring (which is a bit later anyway and a 90s and not 80s album) is out of print anyway.
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Same, Burning the Hard City is what hooked me (and I ordered it based on Wayside's description). They've been one of my favorite bands ever since. |
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Hi, I really think that the lack of FM Radio in the 1980's ... was what hurt the most, but the music never died. There were too many bands that were out there, however, like FELT, there were many that we had never heard of, or about, and this band, I just heard for the first time ... 40 years later! FM radio losing its independence to the corporate world was an attempt to take music out of our hands (late 70's early 80's) ... and the Internet helped a lot (later), but it is becoming corporate owned and we need to start fighting that again. DJAM KARET was a part of my collection going back to 1990's ... on the album right after "Reflections" ... which got me to be on them ever since.
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Hi, Very nice album all the way through ...
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Correct, it remains the favorite album of more than a few DK fans, Greg Walker included.
Ditto. I own hundreds of albums released in the '80s. |
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Hi,
Heck, Marillion would likely fit, though folks think that Fish was a copy ... and he was much more honest and true to himself and the work he did for many years. Djam Karet starts up in 1985, but the album that got their attention was in 1989 (Reflections From the Firepool) ... I also find it weird when folks think the 1980's weren't very good ... heck, Peter Hammill had some outstanding things on his own, alone! |
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Early Djam Karet.
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Of course I'm going to mention, Allan Holdsworth and the Pat Metheny Group.
Both ahead of their time in the 80's and even today. Timeless. |
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I would think Talking Heads would qualify as musically progressive, not "prog." I think Minutemen took punk rock in a progressive direction. Kate, Cardiacs, XTC?, Happy Rhodes just to name a couple more.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Saperlipopette!
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While RIO/Avant and Zeuhl or the 1980's feel fresh and innovative to me even today, it's none of it was really ahead of its time. But here's few suggestions:
The Residents - Mark of the Mole (including Intermission & The Tunes of Two Cities). Most of the trilogy has a certain industrial concept-feel to it, that doesn't really resemble much music I know of made back then. I feel that I've heard similar or comparable electronic soundscapes, beats and machinery etc... all the time thoughout the last three decades. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden. I guess there's still nothing quite like it, but I think a certain approach to sound and what a rock song could be, was heard here that feels rather unique for its time. Although combining from many traditions old and new, Dead Can Dance whole 1980's career is filled with music that wasn't really out there prior to their existence. Within the Realms of a Dying Sun, Spleen And Ideal, The Serpent's Egg... these kinds of musical fusions were perhaps heard in bits hare and there before Brendan and Lisa entered the scene. But there was no albums filled with music like this. Kate Bush - for The Dreaming and Hounds of Love in particular. Every "strange, artsy and artistic woman" in music ever since has been compared to her. She's like the motherlode. Edited by Saperlipopette! - Yesterday at 17:36 |
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