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    Posted: June 05 2023 at 06:33
^ depends. It's a sophisticated song, harmonically, and difficult to play (on the guitar). But for most of my life I found it boring. 
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Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

They can be made not boring:


eheeee, Sultans of Swing is not a boring song. Smile
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They can be made not boring:
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Definitely dip their toes into prog sometimes, but are ultimately a classic rock band.
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Originally posted by Moonshake Moonshake wrote:

Dire Straits does not count as prog.
In my opinion, they count as boring.

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Dire Straits does not count as prog.
In my opinion, they count as boring.
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In short, no way, at best (Love over Gold) Art Rock.








Edited by David_D - May 29 2023 at 06:24
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Most musicians keep going in and out of genres or styles, it's only fans who stay inside their box of choice
so true

To that I would add it is only the obsessive fans who stay inside their box of choice. Most of us do demonstrate at least some element of flexibility.

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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Most musicians keep going in and out of genres or styles, it's only fans who stay inside their box of choice
so true

To that I would add it is only the obsessive fans who stay inside their box of choice. Most of us do demonstrate at least some element of flexibility.
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Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Most musicians keep going in and out of genres or styles, it's only fans who stay inside their box of choice
so true
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Most musicians keep going in and out of genres or styles, it's only fans who stay inside their box of choice. Dire Straits' foray into prog is as good and enjoyable as anyone's, whether it be an only song or an entire career.
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Originally posted by mickcoxinha mickcoxinha wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Crest of Knave ((see Budapest)


Budapest, which is basically Jethro Full trying to sound like Dire Straits plus flute

I've never thought that Ian Anderson sounded like Knofler in that trilogy of albums (Crest, Island and Catfish). 

TBH, that Crest album sounds more like ZZ Top in its Eliminator/Afterburner era, because of two tracks.

Still laughing about the Best metal album grammy thing, though..


Edited by Sean Trane - May 11 2023 at 02:08
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
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There are many Rock bands in the 60s, 70s, and 80s that played regular Rock, but had a tendency to play in a Progressive style ..either by doing it for the whole of 4 or 5 minutes in one of their songs...or...recorded an instrumental piece .You can literally plough through a large volume of Rock albums which extend over 30 years and find that.

Of course they were never thought to be Progressive Rock by their audience or the industry, but because they were professional musicians they did in fact play something which sounded like Progressive Rock for a whole of 2 or 4 minutes. The reason being that they had a spark of creative freedom and could get away with it sparingly because they sold consistently and made the record companies happy. It's a fact..however they were never labeled as progressive in any sense. It usually wasn't revealed through the publications industry that they possessed that quality. I'm assuming it wouldn't have been good for business since they were being promoted as something else..but obviously some fans took notice of it.

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Crest of Knave ((see Budapest)


Budapest, which is basically Jethro Full trying to sound like Dire Straits plus flute
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dire straits is pure rockBig smile
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Wikipedia regards "Love over Gold" as progressive rock, art rock, jazz rock.
 
Not long after "Love over Gold" was released, my older brother offered me a ticket to a Dire Straits concert, describing their music as "similar to Pink Floyd" which, because neither of us were aware of the term "progressive rock" at that time, was his way of saying he thought their music was progressive rock. He introduced me to Yes and Nektar, so he was aware of what progressive rock was.
 
It should be said that this was during the '80s when progressive rock had more-or-less disappeared from the airwaves in Australia, so every hint of progressive rock counted.

I also spent the 70's & 80's being unaware my music of choice was called "progressive rock". I only learned that in the early 90's. 
Most of us in the area (Toronto) called that genre "Art Rock"



Real progressive rock from the big 70's band during the 80's were: 
King Crimson/Discipline era
Emerson Lake & Powell
Brother Were You Bound 

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Not even remotely, although their masterpiece Love over Gold has some slightly progish hints.
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Dire Straits? Ha! No, not even remotely. Nope.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Dire Straits are about as much of a prog band as Steely Dan or The Police. 

LOL

I would also throw in Queen just to reignite an old argument.Wink


But Queen 1973-1975 are prog lol


Edited by bardberic - May 04 2023 at 20:07
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