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    Posted: February 22 2022 at 23:57
^ they didn't (at least when I saw them) . Much of the prog stuff was just small excerpts so the statement they played most of SEBTP is stretching it a bit. However I did enjoy the tour debut show in Birmingham (UK) and was very impressed with Nick as I think I posted before. 
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Originally posted by Jagriner4 Jagriner4 wrote:

Saw the Last Domino? show in Chicago. This was terrific closure to a fabulous career (albeit one with a few detours).

The show did include much that was 80's pop, but there was also much that was prog. The show started with Duke and included nearly all of Selling England by the Pound.

Daryl Stuermer played the Hackett bits from the SEBTP titles with skill, finesse and respect. Though an employee rather than a member of the band, he was truly THE guitarist on stage (no offense intended to Mr. Rutherford, a fantastic musician and composer himself).


Nice, I didn't expect to play so much from the earlier days. Have they ever done so before, since Hackett left?
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Saw the Last Domino? show in Chicago. This was terrific closure to a fabulous career (albeit one with a few detours).

The show did include much that was 80's pop, but there was also much that was prog. The show started with Duke and included nearly all of Selling England by the Pound.

Daryl Stuermer played the Hackett bits from the SEBTP titles with skill, finesse and respect. Though an employee rather than a member of the band, he was truly THE guitarist on stage (no offense intended to Mr. Rutherford, a fantastic musician and composer himself).
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

They will never make a new album because they know it will be endlessly compared/contrasted to what they wrote and recorded 45 years ago!

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Not to mention that the chances of this tour taking place in 2020 is probably highly unlikely and I'm not sure that anyone is going to try and put together a stadium show for them, either.

The whole virus thing is more serious than it is thought, and hopefully it won't cause major problems, but hoping to see a band, for the rest of this year? ... I have my doubts even though many are already rescheduling things.


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They will never make a new album because they know it will be endlessly compared/contrasted to what they wrote and recorded 45 years ago!
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It might eventually produce an album anyway. Sometimes a tour can get the old creative juices going and they can see how Nic get's on playing the stuff.
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

I would be ecstatic over a new Genesis album (3-man, 4-man or 5-man, it doesn't matter).  While I understand that a tour is going to rake in a whole lot more cash for the guys, I'm not that interested in rehashing the glory days with a new tour.  Now if they had a new album to tour on, that would be something. 

A new album....Agree!
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I love Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters can kiss my arse, he's a doosh. You'd have to pay me to see his show.

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For people that never got to see PF and The Wall, he is magnificent ... for us old timers that saw the original way back when ... it is a completely whole other story and I was not happy with Roger's redo of The Wall, and the thing that I missed the most? ... the stuff that no one remembers .... the quad sound going around the crowd ... you could hear the steps of the girl going across the room and even say ... look at those guitars ... which started almost in the back and echoed to the front! On Roger's show it was that digital bullpucky and it only went from stage left to right ... and both you and I ... honestly? I feel cheated! The one thing that made PF the best in terms of a show, was basically taken out!!

But GENESIS, by the time I got into them, it was during SEBTP when it came out and then TLLDOB ... and in that year I got all their early stuff and Anthony Phillips stuff ... and AP has been much more important to me than either GENESIS or PG ... and way more creative for my tastes!


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I would be ecstatic over a new Genesis album (3-man, 4-man or 5-man, it doesn't matter).  While I understand that a tour is going to rake in a whole lot more cash for the guys, I'm not that interested in rehashing the glory days with a new tour.  Now if they had a new album to tour on, that would be something. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by heavydrum heavydrum wrote:

to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do.
so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again.
 

why would he stand on the chair?

Anyway 2 hours of Invisible Touch could severely grate on the ears. Hopefully they might play something else along the way Wink

They'll play one hour of an extended version of Inivisible Touch and one hour of an extended I can't dance. LOL
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Originally posted by heavydrum heavydrum wrote:

to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do.
so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again.
 

why would he stand on the chair?

Anyway 2 hours of Invisible Touch could severely grate on the ears. Hopefully they might play something else along the way Wink
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz

Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher!
 
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Simon does a great job of singing Genesis on Hacketts album --and I just cant believe Phil's voice can do this. So having a singer/drummer touring might fill in the blanks.
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His other son Simon is definitely good enough to pull off old school Genesis material in a convincing manner. Anyone doubting this should check out Dimensionaut.
....but yeah it’s Nic playing (?)
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to see three old men play 'invisible touch'? no, thanks, it's pretty ridiculous, seeing collins standing on a chair for two hours while his son tries his best back there... no offense to the kid but his best doesn't even come close to what his father could do.
so no, i'll stay home and listen to 'foxtrot'. again.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz

Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher!

Agree, not sure why Chester is not part of the tour, hoping Nic can pull it off Clap. On the big stage like that playing some complex material, I have a feeling he will do fine. The recent interview with Genesis on the tour Phil did mention he was planning on doing some drumming, hope he has received some good PT for his nerve damage. Physically he looks pretty frail, Tony Banks looks the best of the 3 with Rutherford looking older....
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I'm going to see Hackett in November. That'll do for me. I've only seen him once before and that was all too briefly at a festival where the organisors decided that because they were running over they would cut his set, and not the likes of Wishbone Ash, who I would have thought were less of a draw on the Prog Stage, and to be frank were.. zzzzz

Does anyone have any clear footage of Nic Collins drumming? I can find low quality clips of him playing on his dads recent tour, but nothing where he is playing more complex stuff. I don't want to be prejudiced, but the best drummers I've known could not do Genesis songs justice at 18, not in the way Phil and/or Chester could. I do appreciate Nic has had a good teacher!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

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Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets.
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Probably not anymore ... many of these got to stay with Paul Allen and have the benefits of the high life (specially Roger Waters), but in the end, now they will have to pay for this and that ... and not bother stopping here ... the thing is, the airport here is a far better location for a stop than Seattle ... but the issue might be lugging all the equipment around ... and the usual ... GENESIS ... "it's a family tour"!

I love Pink Floyd, but Roger Waters can kiss my arse, he's a doosh. You'd have to pay me to see his show.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

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Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets.
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Probably not anymore ... many of these got to stay with Paul Allen and have the benefits of the high life (specially Roger Waters), but in the end, now they will have to pay for this and that ... and not bother stopping here ... the thing is, the airport here is a far better location for a stop than Seattle ... but the issue might be lugging all the equipment around ... and the usual ... GENESIS ... "it's a family tour"!


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I have been following this rumor for the past 2 months or so, it seems it may be true as an announcement is due out tomorrow from the BBC Radio 2 morning show. 
Read more about it here, and of course no Peter Gabriel or Steve Hackett to join the reunion, regardless I'm in if they come to the US.


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I might need a couch to sleep on if they make it to Seattle ... I'm gonna guess they will only do the major cities ... and that would mean Seattle is in! In the West Coast it would be LA, SF and Seattle ... Portland is a crap music town by comparison! Even though they have a great band ... GRAILS .... on their dockets ... but I'm not sure I have seen a show in Portland ... and I don't want to bet that only 12 people will show up for the night!

I'm guessing that Steve Hackett is booked so far ahead that anything with GENESIS is probably impossible, but really, without Steve Hackett, I'm not sure it will be that great ... just another memory lain down the road and a million in your pocket!

PG ... well, no surprise there, he is not that great anymore, and he has no "shtick" to make himself more valuable and important than the band ... so he won't show up ... I really wish he would swallow up his pride and come to the show and put in a nice set ... if not for the band, it would be one of the greatest treats of all for the fans, almost all of whom, never got to see PG with them, when it mattered and counted ... but I really think that a lot of it has to do with his fellow members not appreciating a lot of TLLDOB and he would want to do several bits from it, I'm sure ... it's his best work ever ... and the single stuff after, is not half as good!

First they need to announce a US Tour, which I suspect will only happen upon Phil feeling like he can after this UK tour. I will be shocked if they come to Seattle. Clearly the east coast is easy but then have to travel 3000 miles to west coast, we'll see.
Portland gets the same shows Seattle does on the prog scene of late, I know most that come here do hit Portland also. Haken, Riverside, Pineapple Thief, SWilson, DT all make PDX a stop.....for sure we don't get all the shows though like say LA or NY gets.

We all want to see that lineup and it is still a chance as long as they are all still working and living, but relationships and business reasons might not let it happen. It seems PG is super hard to get time with to even discuss such a tour, he's either very busy or not interested. Hackett to me simply does not want to do it.....
We can still dream though.
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