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    Posted: October 04 2005 at 06:26
Originally posted by Doesburger Doesburger wrote:

Originally posted by Throgh Throgh wrote:

no drugs - just fun what man are you if you need any kind of stimulation to life. Why do you need this s**t stuff? life is brutal, mom doesn't love you, or girl/boyfriend's gone? I'm very angry if sbd want to tell me "Oh drugs are so cool and harmless for me - I just can control it, I'm a hero" I'm not saint, but DRUGS ARE S**T AT ALL and destroy you, OK drinking too. But compare strenght of addiction of both. one more time MY opinion - no drugs at all


You don't like drugs? Good for you!  Just don't expect everybody to feel the same way as you do.



I have daughter 15 yo and I do not want her taking drugs-
that's why I am so emphatic.
Except this I'm liberal - your life, your choice.

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no drugs, no smoke...

only nice and good prog
i am such a good boy!
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Originally posted by Throgh Throgh wrote:

no drugs - just fun
what man are you if you need any kind of stimulation to life. Why do you need this s**t stuff? life is brutal, mom doesn't love you, or girl/boyfriend's gone?
I'm very angry if sbd want to tell me "Oh drugs are so cool and harmless for me - I just can control it, I'm a hero"
I'm not saint, but DRUGS ARE S**T AT ALL and destroy you,
OK drinking too. But compare strenght of addiction of both.

one more time
MY opinion - no drugs at all

You don't like drugs? Good for you!  Just don't expect everybody to feel the same way as you do.
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man who paint this did not use drugs
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no drugs - just fun
what man are you if you need any kind of stimulation to life. Why do you need this s**t stuff? life is brutal, mom doesn't love you, or girl/boyfriend's gone?
I'm very angry if sbd want to tell me "Oh drugs are so cool and harmless for me - I just can control it, I'm a hero"
I'm not saint, but DRUGS ARE S**T AT ALL and destroy you,
OK drinking too. But compare strenght of addiction of both.

one more time
MY opinion - no drugs at all

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Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

drugs, abortion and sex issues have always had 2 poles: there always have been a fight between the good and the bad. that's why the opinions are 50-50! AMAZING! i believe each opinion does not come from the pure reason!
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drugs, abortion and sex issues have always had 2 poles: there always have been a fight between the good and the bad. that's why the opinions are 50-50! AMAZING! i believe each opinion does not come from the pure reason!

 
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^ I agree with both of you guys.

You know, I don't remember ever hearing about a man killing someone while taking his car stoned. But, about a drunk man...

 

If you want to make an unbiaised opinion about drugs, don't listen to the medias. They are maid, paid and trained to make you hate drugs.
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Yes, on one hand the government diabolizes weed and on another hand, allows sales of dangerous drugs to satisfy pharmaceutical trusts. Where's honesty?
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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand? Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen
 

Simply parroting what so-called "experts" make you want to believe, does NOT make it true. Is that so difficult to understand?
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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Psychologists agree that
the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........


Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand?
Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t
think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take
drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen
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And what about people on legal drugs, like anti depressant, anxyolitics, Prozac, etc...? There are very dangerous! They drive cars for example, and the mix with a little alcohol can have very bad effects.

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That's a really poor argument "against "drugs"".

How many men beat their wifes, after drinking alcohol?

Probably more than people on amphetamines (i'm not advocate amphetamines use, although i've never tried, i think there are very dangerous)
It doesn't mean that alcohol automatically leads to violence!

I also agree that in some psycho social circumstances, hard drug use can lead to some
Terrible acts. But it does mean much, if just that these drugs are dangerous. But you’ll never see violent acts with MJ while there are very common with alcohol (but in this case, alcohol just reveals psychological problems, or is often simply an alibi and exagerates violence)


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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Psychologists agree that the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........


Mental aberration WAS CAUSED by drugs. Is that so hard to understand? Besides we don`t really have a anti-drug campagin in Poland so I don`t think this is a manipulation... I don`t say that everyone who take drugs will act like this guy but it`s more likely to happen
 
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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

To all you drug defensors: Today a cuople of parents were sentenced - mother for 3,5 year and father for life senetnce. They`ve beaten up their child every time it was screaming and tied it to bed... The tragedy was yet to come... one day they were so stoned that the father reaped his child (4 month old boy) and then beated him to death. Police found more amphetamine in their appartment. Psychologists agree that the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........

Congratulations! So the equation is : Mental aberration + drugs = Rapist/murderer. Very convenient and easy! I've got another one for you : Crazy + drugs = Crazy. or Crazy - drugs = Crazy. You must be working for the Department of Mis-Information/Manipulation or something. Thinking and watching tv/listening to radio/reading newspapers/drowning in media are NOT compatible!

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To all you drug defensors: Today a cuople of parents were sentenced - mother for 3,5 year and father for life senetnce. They`ve beaten up their child every time it was screaming and tied it to bed... The tragedy was yet to come... one day they were so stoned that the father reaped his child (4 month old boy) and then beated him to death. Police found more amphetamine in their appartment. Psychologists agree that the mental aberration was caused by drugs..........
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Originally posted by ian_b ian_b wrote:

trippy drugs are ok id say. its the happy drugs you want to stay away from because you may end up being happy only durring the times you are taking these drugs. So i smoke weed take acid and shroom. i wont do ecstacy or speed even though i have tried them. i think the drugs i do have more possitives than negatives IMO. I never take huge doses so they are generally safe.

I've done a fair amount of hallucinogens in my life, and while I'm prepared to believe they have done me less harm than tobacco - physically - I think as a rule of thumb 'if it tastes good or feels good, it's probably bad for you'

The rule applies to illicit drugs, food and drink...

Moderation may be fine for most things, but it's worth remembering that even 1 - 3 cigarettes a day makes you three times more likely to develop lung cancer than a non smoker. Cannabis has potentially even more carcinogens. If the research is to be believed.

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Originally posted by Suki Suki wrote:

Well, are you smoking MJ? and that doesn't ruin your
health?
There is nothing wrong in a cigarette, costy - yes, just as I'm sure
smoking MJ on a regular basis is, ruin your health - just about anything in
life and I'm not aware of any cases where MJ improved someone's health
(besides a few rare cancer cases), anyway, I doubt you'll become super-
supi healthy by smkoking it. smell bad - about 30 mins after thae smell
goes away (at least for people who don't smoke cigarettes on short delay,
like 10 mins the whole day), no high - that's what alcohol is for. not only
that, cigarettes has their own advantages, for example on a school day
(lots of hours, tests, etc..)


Cigarretes are so bad for you and everyone else around you. What are you
talking about? It's your personal preference during a school day to have a
cigarette and it's his or her own preference to smoke weed. They are both
bad for you but cigarettes are worse for the world (environmental impacts
and second hand smoke impacts.)
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Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

to all those who said they don't use drugs: I don't
believe you, unless
you are Mormones. no coffee? no tea? no cocoa? no cigarettes? no
alcohol? these are all drugs by the medical definition of the word


True, but the common meaning of the word "drugs" means narcotics -
you
can be addicted to tea, coffe or even alkohol and yet live a normal
life. Being addicted to drugs (narcotics)makes your life miserable -
you live only to get more and stronger drugs no matter the cost. But
anyway any addiction isn`t good.
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Correction: You can't live a normal life and be a full blown alcoholic
(which mean you were "addicted" to alcochol)

As for me I don't do drugs and I don't drink. I don't feel that a substance
is needed to enhance the effects of music. I just feel that those people
aren't focusing enough while sober.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
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I've never smoked a cigarette in my life, but I used to smoke pot. But in joints, so not completely tobacco free.
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^ Are you trying to convince me starting cigarettes?

I didn't said MJ was good for health. The thing is that already being on that one, I don't wanna ruin it even more
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