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    Posted: January 24 2019 at 09:32
I saw UK back in their prime at a small club in Boston when I was going to school there. I sat at a small high-top bar immediately adjacent to the stage -- right over Holdsworth's shoulder. He was smoking cigarettes, and after one or two puffs during lulls in his guitar playing, he would wedge the cigarette butt between the strings and neck up around the tuners where it would slowly burn itself out. Next lull in the guitar action, he would light up again and repeat the sequence over and over until he ran out of matches.  I was a smoker, too, so I gave him a spare book of matches. I felt like I was on stage. I could literally reach out and tap him on the head if I so dared!

Many years later, I saw UK again on Cruise to the Edge 2014 with Wetton and Jobson. It was so exciting to hear them rip through those old tunes live (from both albums). Truly one of the best supergroups ever formed.

I enjoy both incarnations of UK, with a slight edge to the original.

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Violin Intro - Eddie Jobson
Starless (KC cover)
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Presto Vivace and Reprise
Thirty Years
Alaska
Time to Kill
Nevermore
Mental Medication
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Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

I've only got the Night After Night live album (on vinyl), which I must admit I haven't listened to more than 2 or 3 times. Maybe I should dig it out again.  


Night After Night is rather weak compared to the 2 studio albums.
 

I can't remember a single thing about it, but I figured it would be weak, in my experience most live albums are weaker than studio albums. 


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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

I've only got the Night After Night live album (on vinyl), which I must admit I haven't listened to more than 2 or 3 times. Maybe I should dig it out again.  


Night After Night is rather weak compared to the 2 studio albums.
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I don't have a copy of this album, but as a result of this thread, I am now listening to it on Youtube, AND IT IS MY VERY FIRST TIME LISTENING TO THIS ALBUM, and I must say I'm liking it. Among other things, apart from KC, I'm hearing touches of Zappa. And for Cardiacs fans I can hear where some influences for Jon Poole's Ad Nauseum came from. Little touches of Mike Batt in there too.
I've only got the Night After Night live album (on vinyl), which I must admit I haven't listened to more than 2 or 3 times. Maybe I should dig it out again.  




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Originally posted by Ruby900 Ruby900 wrote:

I have never got on with it - I should love it. Bruford, Wetton and Holdsworth on paper is the dream team. It just leaves me cold. 
Maybe it is time for me to give it another spin......
Maybe you should, I love it. 
And if you can check the DVD "Reunion Live in Tokio", Holdsworth is not there anymore and was replaced by Alex Machazek but it's a terrific concert.
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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Took a long time to grow on me, but the 1st album is a classic.  The great tension between the jazzers and rockers created a wonderful hybrid - though I bought it as soon as it came out and was generally disappointed that it wasn't more "Crimson-like" Wink


I miss this album. Nothing can ever replace Fripp, but I love Bruford and Jobson, and Wetton is a good composer ... now I look for him.
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I had this one paired up on cassette with Bruford One Of A Kind. Big smile
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

The last track on Danger Money is sublime. The best prog track of 1979?
 

The only rival could be the last track of side 1 of the same album. UK's debut is excellent (4.5 stars), but Danger Money belongs to the highest top of the prog catalog.
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I have never got on with it - I should love it. Bruford, Wetton and Holdsworth on paper is the dream team. It just leaves me cold. 
Maybe it is time for me to give it another spin......
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Absolutely love it. My most played UK record far and away. Perfection IMHO!

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I obviously decided to buy both on release. Obviously prog news was obtained mainly through the music periodicals before t'internet and mobile phones....The second CD is very much like ELP..The last track is up there with the best that ELP recorded. And unlike ELP output no dud tracks to spoil the listening experience as you press the skip button...
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I remember the buzz surrounding the first album release as Alan Freeman was still hosting the Saturday afternoon show dedicated to Prog on BBC. The second album passed me by completely and I only became aware of it about 10 years on an ELP discussion forum. Breakneck speed drumming and keyboards at the front. OK I'll check that out!
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Like I said...it's really weird how I bought the vinyl when it was released and didn't play it! Then 40 years later I get the cd's and play and I am blown away....considering the dearth of good prog in the late 70's how did I overlook such Gems....I blame puberty and sex....
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

The last track on Danger Money is sublime. The best prog track of 1979?
 

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I was 14 when I heard the band, back in 2001, in provincial industrial region of Eastern Ukraine. They blown my mind completely, a prog fan ever since
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The last track on Danger Money is sublime. The best prog track of 1979?
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I say get "Collectable King Crimson Vol. 1", Vroom Vroom, and one of the live albums from the current line-up (the one I have and do like is Live in Toronto, though the one that is about to be released from their nights in Mexico City seems bound to be great too).
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The excitement in the prog community when this album came out was very high!  This was a true super-group that introduced Allan Holdsworth to a very large audience, and it led to other prog supergroups that were fashionable at the time (GTR, Asia etc.) 

I saw them in concert for their first tour, it was an electrifying performance. 


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I think that electric violin batters saxophone all day long. Sax has ruined some songs that would be far better with a guitar or synth solo instead...
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Thanks for that, I like the first two...so I will go with chronological order probs...
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