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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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As an aside, I think Katy Perry is mediocre looking. In all honesty, don't laugh, but Lady Gaga turns me on.......
![]() And, I haven't (yet) heard anything particularly 'weak' from Wilson. Opinions are prone to change though (on Wilson, not Gaga - watching her sing Moth Into Flame with Metallica got me excited......) |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12813 |
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Yeah, Katy Perry may be eye candy, but that wouldn't matter in the album anyway... she doesn't sing bad either, but Ninet is just perfect. Now, if he got Katy to sing with him in a concert, then that would help more on the eye candy side of things. However, once a collegue at work said he had to take his daughters to see Katy Perry... and even though he's more of a classic rock / metal guy, he wasn't all that annoyed because at least she was hot... still I said if you apreciate the looks, then at least one might go and see an Epica concert. |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17966 |
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Blundell is a master of techno-beat-drums, he wins all those techno drum battles, he likes EM so I bet he was happy to play this stuff. Katy is super eye candy so I would be fine with SW using her on his album.......
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tboyd1802 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 898 |
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I've liked the first three releases from the new disc with my favorite probably being Song of I. This most recent release - well, let's just say its not my cup of tea...
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He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10278 |
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I had no problem with his Pop stuff with Porcupine Tree but I find impossible to connect with his new music. Honestly, it's not difficult to imagine Katy Perry singing this instead. I feel bad for Craig Blundell having to play the same beat from beginning to end, such a waste of great talent.
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OK, so it's unashamedly pop, and with quite a big ELO influence and a touch of Beatles in a few spots, and to be fair it's actually a perfectly good disposable pop song. Catchy falsetto vocal, brainless repeated lyric to get lodged into your head....mission accomplished.
Have to admit, though, I was getting a bit restless, fidgety and pretty sick of it by the end (perhaps could have done with the briefest of solos instead of Steven essentially singing the entire time), but sure enough that `Hold on....' line is lodged in my head - well played, Steve! ![]() ![]() |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17966 |
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Just listened to the song on the train to work......Pop to the n'th degree. I am not sure what radio station here in the US will play it, maybe in Los Angeles, NY places like that but in other cities I struggle thinking it will get airplay. Not because the song is not pop, but because nobody in the mainstream knows who SW is.
I am totally fine with the song, he will get more women to his live shows because of this album. But I don't think he will become more pop-ular.... It worked for Genesis, Yes, PF, PGabriel, Phil Collins..these were/are all monster bands in rock, prog, psych and very popular on the FM dial, Porcupine Tree and SW are not. I wish him well always and I want all artists, specially prog, to get their due (money), these guys put serious hours into their craft and get probably minimum wage salary when you count the hours they clock. Like I said before, this album will not fare well with the furrow browed prog-elitist that populate this site. If you enjoy good music without a label then you may enjoy it. I wonder what path he will take after this album, I do think it will sell well, but I think in live shows he will get slammed if most of the show is songs like this and not from back catalog. He is insanely talented, but I suspect this album will hurt his reputation for those without an open mind. From that perspective I say let it roll and press those records and ship them! Prog is such a dead genre today that maybe this will serve as some kind of wake up call......
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Watchmaker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 170 |
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I've seen the pics
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Meltdowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 25 2013 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 10278 |
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^ Just wait for the bollywood music video
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Watchmaker ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 170 |
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I was expecting all the fanboys to speak the same nonsense again and to convince themselves that they adore and "understand" it but thank goodness they didn't.
I still think Steven is the most important musician of his generation that I know of, but, come on, this is mediocre. I think there are two paths he can successfully follow now. The first path leads to popularity among the casual listeners and involves him doing pop/commercial stuff. The second path consists of him realising that his first cycle in music has run its course and going back to pink floyd, psychedelic/space/ambient stuff and audio engineering. Or, maybe, the new album is going to be great, or, maybe, he will return to something else, or... |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17966 |
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The Same Asylum As Before, I do like this song. I hear Yes and Stupid Dream influences......All good.
The recent release Song of I, well that one is gonna piss-off the prog elitists
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Mirror Image ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
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I’m quite the opposite of you. I didn’t think much of Grace for Drowning as it seemed rather boring to me overall. Hand. Cannot. Erase. and The Raven That Refused to Sing have been his finest efforts so far outside of Porcupine Tree IMHO.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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tboyd1802 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 898 |
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This is exactly what I thought hearing the second new track, these could have come from Stupid Dream or Lightbulb Sun.
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He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore
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Duke of Rother ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 04 2013 Location: Windsor, UK Status: Offline Points: 99 |
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Entirely nailed. I have enjoyed to one degree or another almost everything SW has released down the years - the ambient stuff less - but H.C.E is, for me, the best of the lot. The level of progginess is HUGE in most songs, but there is a smoothness about what he does and it is so easy to find a catchy melody in amongst the songs and extended instrumental sections it seems he is putting some off. I find it a bit bizarre but hey, each to our own. The 2 early releases from H.C.E were the 2 lightest and most easily accessible (almost radio friendly) songs, and I suspect the same has been done this time. The real mighty meat will not be on show until full release. Oh and I like Ninet Tayeb's voice a lot. There's a dusky exotic depth to it that appeals hugely. Edited by Duke of Rother - June 04 2017 at 01:42 |
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Zugzwang ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 01 2017 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Another new track here: https://open.spotify.com/album/4huFKijAmgqEUjlWLs4SW8
Funny how he went from refusing to even be on streaming services to releasing his new track exclusively on streaming services within a year. As for the music, it sounds like it belongs on Stupid Dream.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18066 |
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Hi, In one of his interviews on the toobe, he made the comment that he sacrificed his personal life for music. Honestly, I am almost thinking that this is a song, suggesting that he is now rethinking that stage ... life is as much a part of music, as music is a part of life, is my way of looking at it. I kinda think that he might feel that he will lose the "hard" edge in his music, if the "softness" enters his life, with a family, but honestly? ... it's all talk ... things are never the same we think ... and SW is no different than any of us at all. I like the song, but I think that it is "overdone" in the sense that he has said all this before and is merely redoing it again. Typical pop mentality, and now I think that I know why PT is not going to be anymore ... SW has sold out.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17966 |
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Genesis post PG....Yes 90125/Big Generator. Problem is even though his music might be leaning towards more popular acclaim it will never be popular. |
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RoeDent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 08 2009 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 850 |
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The press release announcing the album mentioned albums like So, Colour of Spring, Hounds of Love and The Seeds of Love, definitely at the more ambitious end of the 80s pop spectrum.
Shame not many people round here seem to like his music. Must be the inherent and institutionalized snobbery among certain prog fans towards anything reeking of popular acclaim. It's the only feasible explanation as to why such incredible music can possibly be hated.
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Bonnek ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4521 |
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Much to my surprise I didn't dislike the new song. From an interview I understood he wants to let his 80s pop influences come to the fore so this could actually be a more interesting album for me than the two preceeding PROG ones which I don't like much at all. And everybody is talking about that cover. So it is a good cover. Ugly as it is. |
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