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Sagichim
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Topic: Bent Knee Posted: October 19 2017 at 00:34 |
I was a little bit disappointed by Say So, not that it's a bad album I do like it, but the songs seems to be harder to get into, less accessible and not so memorable. The ideas/compositions are a bit confused and so the album loses its punch. There are many good moments throughout but overall this is my least favorite album. Land Animal is better for me in any way, sounds to me like Bent Knee is back on track here, the songs works well and the band sounds much more focused, inspired and interesting. I'm not sure they can deliver another album as amazing as Shiny Eyed Babies though...
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 09:13 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
My fave is also the debut but the most recent Land Animal is slowly opening up to me in a way that Say So never managed to do. I like Say So when I first got it and span it occasionally which seems to be the same story regarding LA...but LA seems to drag me back for more spins. Unlike previous posters here I don't necessarily miss the heaviness of the debut. I think the novelty factor of it as well as it being the very first thing I heard from the group is part of why it still reigns supreme. Our favourites are often our first encounters with x band/artist.
It'd be cool if the order of albums were reversed so as SEB was the new one.
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At least for me, it's not just the novelty factor but that the melodic progressions on SEB were simpler and more accessible, which made it easier to get into the tracks. While I welcome the increased complexity on the next two albums, it hasn't yet crystallised into an approach where the melody still has a discernible arc while being complex. It probably will happen down the line and I am going to be very patient with a band as talented as Bent Knee.
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 08:19 |
people whom like this might also find Major Parkinson, Gåte and Animal Alpha exieting. slight nod to System of a Down as well.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:58 |
You assume right. Not sure why I always forget about their real debut
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:53 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
My fave is also the debut but the most recent Land Animal is slowly opening up to me in a way that Say So never managed to do. I like Say So when I first got it and span it occasionally which seems to be the same story regarding LA...but LA seems to drag me back for more spins. Unlike previous posters here I don't necessarily miss the heaviness of the debut. I think the novelty factor of it as well as it being the very first thing I heard from the group is part of why it still reigns supreme. Our favourites are often our first encounters with x band/artist.
It'd be cool if the order of albums were reversed so as SEB was the new one.
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I assume you're talking about Shiny Eyed Babies rather than the debut, SEB was their sophomore release and a big step up from the the debut. I live Say So & Land Animal but SEB may still be my favorite.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 03:30 |
My fave is also the debut but the most recent Land Animal is slowly opening up to me in a way that Say So never managed to do. I like Say So when I first got it and span it occasionally which seems to be the same story regarding LA...but LA seems to drag me back for more spins. Unlike previous posters here I don't necessarily miss the heaviness of the debut. I think the novelty factor of it as well as it being the very first thing I heard from the group is part of why it still reigns supreme. Our favourites are often our first encounters with x band/artist.
It'd be cool if the order of albums were reversed so as SEB was the new one.
Edited by Guldbamsen - October 13 2017 at 03:32
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 19:43 |
I Love You Doggy
(If anyone has been following him recent stuff)
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 19:07 |
Ben's pretty active, he has a bunch of material out there on bandcamp, I have the Freak Machine album. It's very good, like a darker edgier BK.
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Zugzwang
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 18:51 |
My one petty criticism of Land Animal: there's a bit of a drop in intensity after the title track. The last four songs are good but I feel that Boxes would have a much larger impact if it was behind a song like These Hands or Land Animal instead of The Well, which to me sounds like an album closer itself.
Otherwise I don't really view the new album as better or worse than Shiny Eyed Babies. Really depends on what you liked about SEB. The music in Land Animal is less exaggerated (for lack of a better word) than that of SEB, but it's still highly eclectic and dynamic and I don't find myself wanting any more heaviness than there already is. May just be my bias against heavier music.
Related news: from what I've heard, Ben Levin has a bunch of material he's finishing up with. So there should be at least one Ben Levin Group album next year. Additionally, Courtney's solo EP is (finally) being released next month (Though I don't think Courtney's solo material would be much appreciated by the prog community).
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 14:31 |
I have to agree with Rogerthat, in that both Say So and Land Animal have found me slightly disappointed. The music, the moods, the sound production, the compositions, and the are still stellar--among the best of new artists in the world--but that the impact of each of their songs and these two albums as wholes has been far below that of Shiny Eyed Babies--which has been, to my ears and mind, one of the best albums released since the 1970s. I have, however, found greater connection and appreciation for the new album than than Say So.
I've shirked at my two opportunities to see the band in my state cuz I still have to travel three to four hours to get there. Plus, their two Wisconsin visits have been during farming season. Hard to get away. (Hard to stay awake that late.) Maybe someday.
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 09:21 |
An amazing band live with some great material, but I agree that sometimes the "concept" takes over and doesn't let the songs shine through. Regardless, you will not be disappointed by their live set. See them if you can.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 12 2017 at 09:19 |
I have listened to Land Animal a few times by now and can't but agree with javajeff's review, sadly. But I don't think the problem is so much one of predictability or formula. It is that all the lovely tones and textures don't seem to add up to something in the way they did on Shiny Eyed Babies. This problem was there to some extent on Say So and it's gone even more in the direction of somewhat meandering compositions without enough of the heaviness that made them explosive.
Anyway, I will wait some more time to see if the songs grow on me before reviewing but it is rather underwhelming. Not a bad album by any means but they got my hopes up so much after Shiny Eyed Babies that it feels disappointing. The thing is while the band say they are going for instant gratification this time, Shiny Eyed Babies had very catchy hooks and, as alluded to above, more flow. So it seems that their way of making the music accessible is to tone down the heaviness and darkness. The title track captures the quintessence of Bent Knee but elsewhere it's elusive.
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Posted: May 12 2017 at 16:08 |
The band did an in-studio performance in Rochester for WAYO's "Show of Prague." It includes a ~15 minute interview, and a ~45 minute performance featuring 6 songs from their upcoming album.
Setlist is: 1. Terror Bird 2. Leak Water 3. ? (I think it's Time Deer but I'm not sure) 4. Holy Ghost 5. Insides In 6. Being Human 7. Land Animal 8. The Well 9. Way Too Long So, in case anyone's curious about what the new album will sound like, you can listen here: https://www.mixcloud.com/show-of-prague/episode-of-bent-knee-may-10-2017/
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Posted: April 21 2017 at 17:43 |
Haven't seen them live but live videos are fabulous! Really looking forward to the new album... Shiny Eyed Babies is my favourite so far. Annoyed that the video link above doesn't work anymore.
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Posted: April 08 2017 at 15:32 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Love this band. Shiny Eyed Babies is one of a few rare rock albums this millennium to genuinely sound unique.It's going to be tough trumping it, but I am still very much looking forward to the new one. |
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Posted: April 05 2017 at 10:24 |
Ten new tracks for an album later in the year.
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Ian
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Posted: April 04 2017 at 22:46 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Saw the band on Saturday at a secret gig in Boston where they were filming the new album, same venue as I saw Gutbucket last year, only about 20 invited guests. They played the whole of the new album, sounds like really strong stuff, couple of really high energy bouncy tracks with the band going full tilt plus a couple of slower numbers, nice variety. Had to look round 4 cameramen who were in the bands faces all night but a really excellent night. |
New album as in an upcoming one, already? Very exciting if that's the case.
Edit: Thanks. I'll definitely be looking forward to it.
Edited by Zugzwang - April 05 2017 at 15:02
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Posted: April 04 2017 at 20:53 |
I saw them at Rosfest. Good band.
I met them also and they seemed pleasant enough.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 04 2017 at 20:54
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: April 04 2017 at 20:46 |
They're kind of my "hey I know a famous person" band. I've been in casual contact with Ben over the last two years and I've met Courtney before.
They're such a talented and unique band, such nice people too!
Edited by Thatfabulousalien - April 04 2017 at 20:46
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Posted: April 04 2017 at 19:45 |
Saw the band on Saturday at a secret gig in Boston where they were filming the new album, same venue as I saw Gutbucket last year, only about 20 invited guests. They played the whole of the new album, sounds like really strong stuff, couple of really high energy bouncy tracks with the band going full tilt plus a couple of slower numbers, nice variety. Had to look round 4 cameramen who were in the bands faces all night but a really excellent night.
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