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    Posted: July 01 2015 at 21:59

^^ The Eye of Wendor also features the Experience’s Noel Redding, Justin Hayward, and Sad Café’s Ian Wilson and Paul Young.  Great prog concept album although the story is a bit clichéd.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2015 at 10:27
^^^

If you are fond of BJH and the other bands mentioned by The Jester then you'd probably love Mandalaband. Their Eye of Wendor album features the contribution of whole BJH band plus 10CC and Maddy Prior.

The leader of the band was David Rohl, who took the duty of producer for BJH's Octoberon.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2015 at 05:07
Barclay James Harvest....
I fell in love with this band when I was 14 years old, and today (after 30+ years) is still one of my most beloved bands.
 I read in some of your comments here, that BJH wasn't much into Prog, right? I will have to agree and disagree at the same time. It totally depends on what do you mean by "Prog". If for you 'Prog' means something like King Crimson, Yes, ELP etc, then yes, BJH isn't a Prog band. But if you are fond of bands like Procol Harum, Renaissance, Illusion, The Moody Blues and so on, then BJH should be a "must" for you. Wink
As for the albums you mentioned...
Their first and more "Symphonic" period, (including Robert John Godfrey as a musical conductor), is a wonderful one. It ends with the release of 'Baby James Harvest' which is a not so good album. (But it includes the brilliant 'Summer Soldier' and especially 'Moonwater' in it).
 The "must listen to" album from this first period, is without a doubt 'Barclay James Harvest Live' (1974). It includes most of their best songs, in wonderful versions. (Also, BJH & other short stories is a very good choice).
 Next, they moved to another record label, and tried to become famous. Well, they did it!
Here's a few more albums I would recommend to you as well: Everyone is Everybody else (1974), Octoberon (1976) and Live Tapes (1978).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2015 at 19:54
Originally posted by t d wombat t d wombat wrote:

"Heard a voice shouting "Don't jump, please for God's sake let me move my car"!"

That was a great line. They were very good at putting in humorous bits in otherwise serious songs.

Originally posted by t d wombat t d wombat wrote:

Maybe I'll get pilloried for this but reminds me a bit of Chris de Burgh in that there is a lot to recommend but overall a tadge sacharine, or at least a bit shallow.  Same could apply to Moody Blues I guess.

That’s perfectly valid.  All three acts had their share of “meh” moments. Ermm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2015 at 18:44
Ah ..... got to the end of Octoberon and now I know why I liked the thing back in the day.

Suicide.

If they ever wrote/recorded a better tune I'd like to know what it was.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2015 at 18:03
I know I don't have any BJH on CD, only vinyl and I think only Octoberon. I have good memories of the album but listening to it now I don't remember it at all. Have to agree with Green Shield in that it is largely enjoyable but lacks a certain something. Nice guitar work.

Maybe I'll get pilloried for this but reminds me a bit of Chris de Burgh in that there is a lot to recommend but overall a tadge sacharine, or at least a bit shallow.  Same could apply to Moody Blues I guess.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2015 at 03:51
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I agree that the 1974 live album is probably the best album to get overall.  I find the band a little frustrating because they are obviously hugely talented and have produced some great songs but their overall sound is just a little too limp and tepid.  A little more drama (especially in the vocals) could have propelled BJH into the big league.


I would like to revise this opinion. Prompted by this thread, I have been listening to a number of BJH albums lately, especially Time Honoured Ghosts, Octoberon, Gone to Earth, and XII. Repeated listens have made me realise that there is drama and power in the music. There is a tastefulness to the arrangements rather than a limpness. My initial evaluation was lazy and uninformed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2015 at 15:44
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

I agree that the live 1974 album is probably their best album. The studio albums sometimes sound to me a bit too "overproduced", too many strings and such, while in the live recording you get the "pure" compositions, which are simply great, and greatly performed! Thumbs Up
Been a fan from the early 70's and if you are only going to own one the live from 74 is the one to get.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2015 at 12:06
I agree that the live 1974 album is probably their best album. The studio albums sometimes sound to me a bit too "overproduced", too many strings and such, while in the live recording you get the "pure" compositions, which are simply great, and greatly performed! Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2015 at 11:25
oh, what a band. I love them and almost got the entire discography.

"Octoberon" and "Everyone Is Everybody Else" are the most interesting studio recordings - from a prog rock perspective - they released during the polydor years.

If looking for something harder you should get the 1974 "Live" of course.

Personally, I'm very fond of "XII" (well, of "Baby James Harvest" too!).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2015 at 20:35

They’ve been a favorite of mine for going on four decades now, though I do agree that they can be a bit on the less-than-dynamic side (“limp” is a little harsh, IMO).  The more progressive tracks, by and large, were provided by the late great Woolly Wolstenholme, who for better or worse was the George Harrison of the group, usually contributing one or two songs per album: In Search of England, Ra, Beyond the Grave, Sea of Tranquility, Moonwater.

 

Poor Man’s Moody Blues, was done as a joke of sorts, answering a critic’s label of them, but it’s now rightly recognized as one of their classics. Tongue

 

John Lees: definitely an underrated guitarist.  He absolutely smokes on the live Medicine Man.

 

EMI did a bang-up job with the reissues of their first four albums, with tons of bonus tracks, mostly singles tracks and BBC recordings, some of songs that don’t have studio counterparts.  The first especially is like a treasure hunt.

 

The first one I ever bought was Octoberon, which is still my favorite (though perhaps tied with Once Again).  Clap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2015 at 06:51
I agree that the 1974 live album is probably the best album to get overall.  I find the band a little frustrating because they are obviously hugely talented and have produced some great songs but their overall sound is just a little too limp and tepid.  A little more drama (especially in the vocals) could have propelled BJH into the big league.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2015 at 06:47
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

I love Once Again very much and it was my introduction to the band, I've never really got into Time-Honoured Ghosts and never listened to Baby James Harvest, but the ones I do like are BJH & Other Short Stories, Everyone Is Everybody Else and Octoberon.
First of all BJH were never that progressive but their arrangements were always rich and interesting plus they did have their more progressive songs.

BJH & Other Short Stories is my favourite although I've seen many mediocre reviews for it, anyway for me it's kind of a magical album with such a cool atmosphere, beautiful, sad and disturbing, It's their most orchestrated album too, filled with beautiful orchestrated arrangements and some heartfelt melodies, check out the songs Medicine Man and The Poet, those are stunning.
Everyone Is Everybody Else is probably their strongest with some of their best material, also contains some of their progiest moments, I'd suggest start with this one. Octoberon is also good and worth checking out if you'll like the others.

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Thanks for the advice, I'll try those ones.
Tried them, liked them but still not a patch on "Once Again".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2015 at 03:43
I love them.They have good singers in Les and John.Also John is kind of an underrated guitarist imo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2015 at 03:01
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

For me, Everyone Is Everybody Else is the best album.
No real classic tracks, but all the songs are quite good and the album has grown on me through the years. It's good from beginning to end.
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Actually, the LIVE album is the best ... absolutely fantastic versions of Summer Soldier and Medicine Man.
 
Everyone is Everbody Else is a magnificent album and non stop pleasure.

Ah, that's the same albul YamYam has mentioned, the first live one, from 1974?
Haven't listened to that, but it's the first one I'm planning to check out now!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 14:10
Originally posted by defectinggrey defectinggrey wrote:

I'm surprised that , no-one has mentioned that they have a song 'Poor Man's Moody Blues'.
 
I always thought that it was funny, because the Moodies went "hip" and "cool" and forgot about the music and any meanings in it. It was superficial!
 
AND there was nothig superficial about Barclay James Harvest!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 13:57
Originally posted by defectinggrey defectinggrey wrote:

I'm surprised that , no-one has mentioned that they have a song 'Poor Man's Moody Blues'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 10:13
I'm surprised that , no-one has mentioned that they have a song 'Poor Man's Moody Blues'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2015 at 09:51
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

For me, Everyone Is Everybody Else is the best album.
No real classic tracks, but all the songs are quite good and the album has grown on me through the years. It's good from beginning to end.
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oooopppppssss listed above!!!
 
This LIVE album is the best ... absolutely fantastic versions of Summer Soldier and Medicine Man.
 
Everyone is Everbody Else is a magnificent album and non stop pleasure.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2015 at 18:41
They were one of my favourite groups in my late teens/early twenties. For an introduction you can't do much better than their imaginatively titled 'Barclay James Harvest Live' (1974) album...All the best songs from those early Harvest years (they switched to Polydor for this live album) are on it - and apart from 'For No One', which was so majestically presented on the studio album 'Everyone Is Everybody Else', the live versions are actually better imho. I picked it up brand new for two quid at Makro Halesowen (a card-holder only cash and carry warehouse that had a small, but surprisingly well chosen vinyl record department) just after its release, and wore it out in just a few months on my cheap (but very effective) Connoisseur BD1 turntable. LOL
 
It's on YouTube in full, so anyone with 75 minutes to spare who wants to get to know this fine band - here you are - fill yer boots!
 
 
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