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Posted: December 04 2014 at 14:58 |
 Evolver wrote:
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Evolver wrote:
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^Did you have the necessary 'enhancements'? |
I was only about 10 years old at the time, so that came some time later. |
Do you think you might have a different opinion of the album as an adult? The music had a lot of similarity with the Doors due to the heavy use of organ and the Doors are considered proto. |
I never thought the Doors were more than marginally progressive. |
Not to beat a dead horse further but isn't most proto prog marginally prog, save the Beatles?
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 14:39 |
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I remember when I first got a hold of that album during high school. Section 43 freaked me out!....in a wonderful way!Never thought of them as prog nor proto, but they had some experimental psych attributes to them which were absolutely thrilling to say the least. |
That's my favorite track on Electric Music For The Mind And Body, "Section 43". Great track! I agree with the rest of the post. It was the age of experimentation, long songs with psychedelic influences. But quite outside the prog or proto prog spectre, I'd say. Only connected with them because many bands were doing long tracks and mixing different styles.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 14:39 |
^Very well, David, I will defer to your good judgment on this matter regarding the Country Joe album. Your good musical judgment , that is.  |
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 06:01 |
I remember when I first got a hold of that album during high school. Section 43 freaked me out!....in a wonderful way! Never thought of them as prog nor proto, but they had some experimental psych attributes to them which were absolutely thrilling to say the least.
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 05:41 |
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Boy oh boy , electric Music For the Body and Mind - absolutely wonderful.....never thought of them as Proto, but appealing to many Proggers nevertheless. The Masked Marauder has an almost Canterbury feel (must be that organ...).
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 05:25 |
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They did inspire artists who were, though, most notably their extensive use of organ and classical influence in general in rock music as well as their philosophical lyrics. I think "proto-prog" status is more a matter of historical context than what the artists actually played, or at least just as much.
Then again I consider The Doors more proto-goth than anything else, at least if you consider their ideological ethos, so I'm probably not the right person to ask.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 20:03 |
SteveG wrote:
Evolver wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Did you have the necessary 'enhancements'? |
I was only about 10 years old at the time, so that came some time later. |
Do you think you might have a different opinion of the album as an adult? The music had a lot of similarity with the Doors due to the heavy use of organ and the Doors are considered proto. |
I never thought the Doors were more than marginally progressive.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 19:57 |
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Never was a big fan of Country Joe but to me I would place them in the psych blues rock area. |
Wu, you have my covered my sentiments to a tee. I did like "Fixin' to Die Rag" from Woodstock. I remember the F-bombs being delightful for this youngster at the time.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:50 |
Evolver wrote:
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^Did you have the necessary 'enhancements'? |
I was only about 10 years old at the time, so that came some time later. |
Do you think you might have a different opinion of the album as an adult? The music had a lot of similarity with the Doors due to the heavy use of organ and the Doors are considered proto.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:47 |
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:42 |
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:34 |
SteveG wrote:
^Did you have the necessary 'enhancements'? |
I was only about 10 years old at the time, so that came some time later.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:01 |
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:59 |
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A hippy friend of my mother gave me sound Country Joe & The Fish albums back in the 60's. I never thought of them as prog, or prog related.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 16:53 |
Hmm.....the proto prog thing...again. Never was a big fan of Country Joe but to me I would place them in the psych blues rock area.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 15:45 |
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Ok, I'm at it again. But this time I'm proposing the Country Joe and The Fish album Electric music for the mind and body. If you're not familiar with this psychedelic classic from 1967 (and you should be), it sounds like a cross between the Doors, electric blues and the avant garde, with very bold lyrics for the times.
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