Is Steven Wilson making Prog music?

sorcerer kermes wrote: 2. if we accept that Wilson is a 100% Prog musician, the problem is (as Junges said ) he is way way overrated.

I could, and would, say the same thing about Jon Anderson, especially his singing.  Once again, I don't see the relevance of this to the question you've asked. 

I don't care if it's prog or not, really. I just love the music of Steven Wilson. 

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jude111 wrote: sorcerer kermes wrote: ... if we accept that Wilson is a 100% Prog musician, the problem is (as Junges said ) he is way way overrated... i am a fan of new bands and musicians such as Phideaux, Wobbler, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, Decemberists,  GYBE!, IlTempio delle Clessidre and so many other modern bands and even old bands with fresh and new music like Anderson`s new album. YES i live in 2013! my main point is there are different approaches to defined Prog music but i totally disagree with picturing Wilson as the man with the flag of the Prog in his hand in front of the heritage of 45 years  Okay, now you've probably confused many of us even more.  Sigur Ros, Mogwai, and GYBE! are about as "prog" as Radiohead - which is to say, not really prog in the strictest, purest sense - and furthermore, their audience is probably a 99% non-prog audience. Wilson is clearly more aligned with prog and steeped in its traditions. It's not that Wilson is the "man with the flag of prog in his hand," it's that he's clearly in the zone right now. I mean, Grace for Drowning and The Raven are two brilliant albums, arguably the best of his career, and a reason to be excited these days. Furthermore, given his age, it's defying the odds and pretty inspirational - most of the prog giants of the past at 45 years old were long past their peek, but Wilson's seemed to really find his voice.

Plz jude dont play these games with me plz dont say you think that i dont know the definition of Post-Rock, I mentioned those bands just to prove to my friend who thinks i lost my calender i have one! but you are right, of course they are not 100% Prog!


Edited by sorcerer kermes - March 08 2013 at 17:11

Thanks to all the people who at least most of them answered my question. for those who compare Wilson with Fripp (!) and those who thinks that this is a clear and fixed fact that Wilson is the definition of Prog and when they read my question thinks that im crazy or somethin or maybe too old fashioned i have nothing to say.  but to the rest of you(majority) i want to add something to my first statement :

1. to Holy Moly: im so agree with you about the definition of the word "Prog"  but what im trying to say is that there are different aspects of this wide definition that one can hold on to it and im strongly suggest this fact that Wilson fans aspect is totally different from the classic 70`s fans aspect.
2. if we accept that Wilson is a 100% Prog musician, the problem is (as Junges said ) he is way way overrated.
3.Thanks Argonaught for reminding of the calender i must say im totally disagree with you because i never said that in 21st century we never hear  masterpieces i am a fan of new bands and musicians such as Phideaux, Wobbler, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, Decemberists,  GYBE!, IlTempio delle Clessidre and so many other modern bands and even old bands with fresh and new music like Anderson`s new album. YES i live in 2013 but i rather listen to 70`s!

my main point is there are different approaches to defined Prog music but i totally disagree with picturing Wilson as the man with the flag of the Prog in his hand in front of the heritage of 45 years 


Edited by sorcerer kermes - March 08 2013 at 14:30

in answer to the main question......of course he is....stupid stupid question.....its 2013......it all cant sound like something from the seventies......if anything he is probably one of the top prog people out there right now.....if he's not prog what is he then?...funk??.......pah......silly question...

Edited by jude111 - March 08 2013 at 11:16

Yet Iron Maiden and Kate Bush aren't considered prog on this site. Their music bears trades of the genre and is therefore included in Prog Related, - but it doesn't make them into prog artists.

HolyMoly wrote: I think you're right about one thing - that Steven Wilson does have a fanbase that has grown outside of the confines of and even indendently of the "real prog fans" as you define them (i.e. fans with prior familiarity/appreciation of the 70s roots of prog).

Edited by jude111 - March 08 2013 at 10:36

Dean wrote: HolyMoly wrote: I think you're right about one thing - that Steven Wilson does have a fanbase that has grown outside of the confines of and even indendently of the "real prog fans" as you define them (i.e. fans with prior familiarity/appreciation of the 70s roots of prog).  Wilson's (overall) fan-base started outside Prog and moved inward, beginning with No Man and then Porcupine Tree, both of which were picked up by the indie crowd (such as read Melody Maker and The Wire [see image]) before anyone called them Prog.

I guess it would depend on each country: I should check the French Indie press, but I'm ready to bet that the first French fans were metalheads, since I first read about Porcupine Tree in the Metal press (and, yes, I was reading some Indie press from time to time).

Guldbamsen wrote: Very cool pic of Cale.

To be honest, Cale on the cover is why I bought the magazine back in 1994 - discovering No Man as a result of that was a nice bonus.