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Argonaught
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:54 |
Gerinski wrote:
Respecting the fact that LZ were a main influence for Rush (and so many others), I find that the alumns have greatly surpassed their teachers.
Geddy has become a better bassist than JPJ (ok not a better keyboardist), Lifeson has become a better guitarist than Page and Peart has become a better drummer than Bonzo, and they have composed many more hours of great music than LZ ever did.
So Rush without a doubt.
I'm actually baffled that the poll result is being so even. |
I would even double-down on what you said: to a considerable degree, the Zeppelin's name recognition is linked, unfortunately, to what is nowadays politically-correctly called "controversies" (no such thing as bad publicity). Mention Led Zeppelin to a bunch of random people who grew up in '70s-80s and ask them what comes to their minds, and I guarantee, half of them will say either "Bonham, quaffing vodka for breakfast' or 'Sweet Satan, ever so cleverly backmasked in Stairway to Heaven' (wink, wink). At the same time, Rush is probably one the sanest and best-behaving bands in the world. No messy divorces. No drugs. No occult stuff. This means that 100% of Rush's fame has to have been earned by just making music, which is a great achievement.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:30 |
wjohnd wrote:
my two favourite bands - but rush sneak in by a Geddy's nose because they are still producing music that i like whereas Zep haven't brought me anything new (that I really liked) since 1979. |
So you prefer Rush because John Bonham died?
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tamijo
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:29 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Gerinski
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:18 |
Respecting the fact that LZ were a main influence for Rush (and so many others), I find that the alumns have greatly surpassed their teachers.
Geddy has become a better bassist than JPJ (ok not a better keyboardist), Lifeson has become a better guitarist than Page and Peart has become a better drummer than Bonzo, and they have composed many more hours of great music than LZ ever did.
So Rush without a doubt.
I'm actually baffled that the poll result is being so even.
Edited by Gerinski - November 25 2012 at 06:21
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Argonaught
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 05:38 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
So far I haven't heard a single Rush song that actually works for me (Maybe save for 'Limelight' ... maybe).
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Tom Sawyer is usually mentioned as "the other hummable one". However, the true worshipers of Rush are said to be able to hum the 20 minutes of The Fountains of Lamneth, forwards and backwards. But seriously, compared side-by-side, I think the only category Zeppelin can claim victory in would be innovation, because they essentially co-fathered the whole genre of hard rock and heavy metal. At the same time Rush, while being enormously prolific and influential band, haven't really co-fathered anything I know of. In other categories Rush wins (in my book, anyway)
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: November 25 2012 at 04:16 |
smartpatrol wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
OK, Rush is a very well apreciated band here in PA. I just got my first album from them (moving pictures), and found them to be hard rock in a big measure, which made me compare tham a bit to Led Zeppelin. I still don't know enough Rush to vote myself, but I'm curious about what will you say. |
You just got your first Rush album? Where the f**k did you get lost? |
Said the guy who, at this point, hadn't even heard LZ IV. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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wjohnd
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 13:41 |
Argonaught wrote:
Some may disagree, but I think the Led Zeppelin folks attracted much publicity for the wrong reasons, like drug abuse, dabbling in the occult and drinking vodka for breakfast. Has to be Rush
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That might have played a small part in the myth making 40 years ago, but they are remembered.. sometimes revered because of the quality of their music.
Physical Graffiti is probably my favourite album of all, so i am perhaps a little biased. That said I prefer Rush overall.
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Argonaught
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 04:20 |
LZ certainly deserve credit for pioneering and influencing a few genres in the late 60's and early 70's, and for providing inspiration for a number of great bands (including Rush). Their musicianship is outstanding. But, I never really liked LZ - neither in the 70's, nor now. To my progressive rock palate, there is a little too much of the rock n' roll and blues filler noise in the LZ music. Also importantly, LZ fizzled out a generation ago, whereas Rush's "horn of plenty" has continued to churn out top quality stuff for nearly 4 decades now.
Some may disagree, but I think the Led Zeppelin folks attracted much publicity for the wrong reasons, like drug abuse, dabbling in the occult and drinking vodka for breakfast. Has to be Rush
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 03:13 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ There is no end to this poll ... but ... [shutting my eyes, stretching my arms out] I see ... a tie ... again ... . |
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Ancient Tree
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 02:50 |
they are booth great bands,but Zeppelin wins this round.
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wjohnd
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 02:29 |
my two favourite bands - but rush sneak in by a Geddy's nose because they are still producing music that i like whereas Zep haven't brought me anything new (that I really liked) since 1979.
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Glucose
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Posted: June 20 2012 at 13:53 |
LZ are a long part of my life.
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TheWatcho
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Posted: June 19 2012 at 20:30 |
Alitare wrote:
Actually, Rush ripped off Led Zeppelin for years before finally realizing that ripping off other bands took less effort. Not that Led Zeppelin were golden heroes. I'd rather listen to Metal Machine Music most days. |
Being influenced it's quite different from ripping off, and speaking of "ripping off other bands", Led Zeppelin did quite well ripping off Joan Baez and Willie Dixon. I kinda like Zeppelin, but I think they're just an overrated dad rock band, and I seriously disrespect Plant and Page, because of the fact that they ripped off so much musicians in their so "important musical influence" to "today's rock", although, I respect Bonham and Jones, for bringing on the solid rhytms that made listenable Zeppelin for me. 'cause I'm obviously a fan, my vote would go to Rush (but I can't vote, maybe because I'm a newbie in the forum :P), they are a far more credible musical act. After 40 years, they are still doing tight flawless live shows, and constantly making credible music, music that doesn't relies in their older glories.
Edited by TheWatcho - June 19 2012 at 20:31
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 03:50 |
No contest for me - Led Zeppelin by many miles!!
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 07 2012 at 18:24 |
smartpatrol wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
OK, Rush is a very well apreciated band here in PA. I just got my first album from them (moving pictures), and found them to be hard rock in a big measure, which made me compare tham a bit to Led Zeppelin. I still don't know enough Rush to vote myself, but I'm curious about what will you say. |
You just got your first Rush album? Where the f**k did you get lost? |
Well, it's been a while since I started the Thread, so by now I already have all albums from 2112 to Moving Pictures, except for Permanent Waves, which they sold at the store just before I got to buying it and haven't re-stocked it yet. I guess I'll have to end up buying in on Amazon or something. And, of course, I have found them great, but still I'm not sure I would put them above Zeppelin.
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Alitare
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Posted: May 30 2012 at 18:12 |
Actually, Rush ripped off Led Zeppelin for years before finally realizing that ripping off other bands took less effort. Not that Led Zeppelin were golden heroes. I'd rather listen to Metal Machine Music most days.
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The_Jester
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Posted: May 30 2012 at 17:24 |
I'll go for Rush as I find Led Zeppelin too sloppy. Still Led Zeppelin got groove.
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nima1024
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Posted: May 30 2012 at 14:34 |
Although it is not a correct comparison, because of genres, but I will go for Led Zeppelin.
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Catcher10
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Posted: May 30 2012 at 01:11 |
Rush never made an album like Coda or In Through/Outdoor.....very non Led Zeppelinesque albums.
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Master of Time
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Posted: May 29 2012 at 21:46 |
I'm not a Lifeson fan, so I'll have to go Zeppelin. Achilles Last Stand is one of my all time favorite songs.
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