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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 09:13 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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someone_else
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:56 |
I don't think they had a "fall". Their masterpiece era was from Ummagumma to Wish You Were Here. After this, The Wall and A Momentary Lapse of Reason were lesser albums, but still good. The Final Cut and The Division Bell form the evidence that they did not fall, although these albums are no real context for their best 1969-75 output.
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paganinio
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:51 |
The Fall of Pink Floyd: here's my side of the story.
Pink Floyd ruled 1971-79.
And then in 1980, a post-punk band called The Fall took over, along with other post-punk bands.
That's when Pink Floyd, as well as other prog bands, fell.
Post-punk rose and prog fell. That's the long story short.
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tamijo
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 08:13 |
Dont know if the fell or not, but I lost a lot of interest after Animals. Some good things after that, but nothing like before. Loved the film as a film though.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 07:32 |
When they turned in to David Gilmour Band
Edited by Hawkwise - November 29 2010 at 07:33
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Adams Bolero
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 06:31 |
clarke2001 wrote:
The Wall of Pink Floyd.
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''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.''
- Albert Camus
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chopper
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 06:16 |
The_Jester wrote:
When do you think the fall occured? Or do you pretend they did not fell? |
Perhaps you can tell us why you think they fell?
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 05:22 |
I'm probably too floydian, but I think they just changed direction several times. Saucerful of Secrets is different from The Piper. Dark side is totally different from Ummagumma or from More. Animals and WYWH are different from Dark Side and so on... did they fall each time? I don't think so. I don't think that songs like High Hopes or Wearing the Inside Out can be considered a fall. They evolved. Each time they have left somebody disappointed but this was evolution. Also the poor underrated The Final Cut has its highlights and a solid concept.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 05:15 |
Depends what you mean by 'fall' They ceased to make music of any real worth after The Wall imo, although they've probably played some of their biggest live shows years after that album.
Commercially they've never really fallen. Maybe they stumbled a bit around The Final Cut, but they recovered after Waters left. They weren't half the band they were before of course.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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clarke2001
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 04:48 |
The Wall of Pink Floyd.
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Textbook
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 03:09 |
Their last album was decent so I would say they didn't fall.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 03:01 |
Reminds me of a VERY old thread...
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akaBona
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 02:22 |
After Wish You Were Here everything went downhill ... not including live albums.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 29 2010 at 00:18 |
they stopped and restarted differently several times. The guy on the right in Finnforest's photo looks a bit like Dave Gilmour, isn't it ?
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Manuel
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 22:45 |
I would not say "Fell", but change direction a bit when Waters left.
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Finnforest
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 22:14 |
The Final Cut is where the band concludes, for me.
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TheOppenheimer
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Location: Buenos Aires
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 22:14 |
We still listen to Pink Floyd, in fact, we still like it, so i dont think they fell anywhere
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A veces es cuestión de esperar, y tomarte en silencio.
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Tychovski
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 22:03 |
Each era stumbled a bit, but I don't think they ever fell.
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Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact.
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 21:56 |
I wouldn't say they fell either. When Waters left they still did a pair of cool albums, for me The Division Bell being among my favourite Floyd albums. Parhaps it was after that album's tour that they fell, but as stated before, they rather just stopped.
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tdfloyd
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Posted: November 28 2010 at 21:52 |
No need to pretend, they did not fall anywhere. They started with the inventive Piper, searched for their sound for a couple of albums after their leader left with most every album improving on the one before. Left some their prog excesses behind and found critical and unbelievable commercial success starting with Dark Side for 4 albums. Waters has to get his message out and the Final Cut is his baby that is all stripped down. Love that album. The leader leaves and a new one emerges and his (Gilmours) album tries to restore the musical side of PF. Seven years later they have a successful album and tour that restores Wright and Mason in more than just name only and retire. Some albums not as good as others, yes. Not a bad album in the bunch . The best band period.
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