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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2011 at 16:57
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Well, well, well!
         For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.
 (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)
           The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.
              It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.
        Anybody out there actually see the show?
           

Have you tried contacting the musicians themselves?  I'm friends with many proggers like John Goodsall, we chat all the time.   

Of course, you'd have to contact Helmut's next of kin....such a sad and stupid ending to a brilliant career!  
If it's not too out of line....can you please ask John Goodsall one day if the original back catalog of Brand X might be remastered and released in the near future? Could you imagine how fantastic it would be if Esoteric were to re-do those titles?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2011 at 11:21
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Well, well, well!
         For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.
 (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)
           The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.
              It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.
        Anybody out there actually see the show?
           

Have you tried contacting the musicians themselves?  I'm friends with many proggers like John Goodsall, we chat all the time.   

Of course, you'd have to contact Helmut's next of kin....such a sad and stupid ending to a brilliant career!  
Thanks for your suggestion, cstack3. Definitely worth attempting. I believe i know how to reach Jurgen Fritz on the net, Hans Bathelt i am not sure, and possibly Helmut Koellen's sister, Elke Schlimbach (who remarried evidently for a second time, so the last name may now be different)
          Being Canadian, i have always  been curious about possible Triumvirat activities here in the seventies
         Sometimes i feel like hell when i think of Helmut Koellen being gone all these years, i know what you mean, what a senseless waste

I'm lucky that I saw them!  I liked Helmut's work on both guitar AND bass (like him, I am a player of both), and also his vocals!!  As I recall, he spoke no English and had to learn the lyrics phonetically.  

Good luck with your quest, you may find some cool stuff if you can engage the band members.  They'll be glad to know people still care. 


Edited by cstack3 - June 13 2011 at 11:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2011 at 11:06
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Well, well, well!
         For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.
 (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)
           The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.
              It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.
        Anybody out there actually see the show?
           

Have you tried contacting the musicians themselves?  I'm friends with many proggers like John Goodsall, we chat all the time.   

Of course, you'd have to contact Helmut's next of kin....such a sad and stupid ending to a brilliant career!  
Thanks for your suggestion, cstack3. Definitely worth attempting. I believe i know how to reach Jurgen Fritz on the net, Hans Bathelt i am not sure, and possibly Helmut Koellen's sister, Elke Schlimbach (who remarried evidently for a second time, so the last name may now be different)
          Being Canadian, i have always  been curious about possible Triumvirat activities here in the seventies
         Sometimes i feel like hell when i think of Helmut Koellen being gone all these years, i know what you mean, what a senseless waste


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2011 at 20:11
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Well, well, well!
         For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.
 (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)
           The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.
              It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.
        Anybody out there actually see the show?
           

Have you tried contacting the musicians themselves?  I'm friends with many proggers like John Goodsall, we chat all the time.   

Of course, you'd have to contact Helmut's next of kin....such a sad and stupid ending to a brilliant career!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2011 at 21:31
Well, well, well!
         For the first time in my life, on the net tonight, i saw a direct reference to a concert with Triumvirat in Canada.
 (I started a thread on Triumvirat in Canada, but it has been closed)
           The reference mentions Supertramp and Triumvirat -Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, Calgary, Alberta, Canada for Tues. Aug. 5th, 1975.
              It does not mention who led in for who, and whether this concert actually did take place for certain.
        Anybody out there actually see the show?
           
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 11:39
I found out from someone in Germany that around 75/76 in Germany there was a television program featuring Triumvirat known as Bios Bahnhof Music that featured music and interviews regarding Old Loves Die Hard.
        Bad news is that he does not believe that it was ever re-broadcast.
         Wouldn't that be something to see, though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2010 at 16:59
Okay, so the ABC In Concert Triumvirat video is not possible
           but what about backing things up a bit?
     Did anybody see the band on television in Europe before their involvement in America? Possibly The Beat Club in Germany, or something similar?
            i know about the two songs on youtube currently, the Hymn from Germany with Barry Palmer on vocals, and Waterfall with Jurgen Fritz singing from Switzerland, both from 1978 i believe, but what about earlier than the In Concert video from 1975?
              Ring any bells, anybody?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2010 at 17:35
 I have some bad news regarding the 1975 Triumvirat "In Concert" video

             I contacted the host of the series at that time, Don E. Branker, and he told me that ABC threw out all the In Concert videos, and that there will be no dvds of them in the future

                           painfull news, but at least we know now from a proper source
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2010 at 10:46
Originally posted by Lozlan Lozlan wrote:

I'd just like to state that, due to this post, I hunted down and started listening to Triumvirat.  Great stuff - I'm a whore for excellent keyboard work.  Thanks.
Great news-enjoy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2010 at 10:36
I'd just like to state that, due to this post, I hunted down and started listening to Triumvirat.  Great stuff - I'm a whore for excellent keyboard work.  Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2010 at 12:27
For the mention about the Trimvirat-Uncommon cd I think you're talking about a bootleg from the Illusions and Spartacus era. Most tracks are with B- sound but it's worth listening to it. If you want it I know where you can obtain it for free. Just e-mail me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:20
On the net, i found an episode guide for ABC's original In Concert series, and found the following-

1975-01-17  #49

Bobby Vinton
Kool and the Gang
Earth Wind and Fire
Triumvirat

so there it is, or was, with the right date

Dick Clark had taken over the show in 1973, as Don Kirshner had a falling out with the Network, and thus Don  Kirshner's Rock Concert

there was Kirshner's bankrupty in the 1990's that complicates rights issues, but there still is still hope
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 15:51
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

i have not got good news
       It seems that the masters for the Original In Concert series are "missing", which translates as lost or ditched, probably a bit of both-it seems that the concert footage was not considered a money making thing at the time
              Don Kirshner's Rock Concert is a bit of a different story, only problem is that i double checked their complete episode guide and there is no reference to Triumvirat
                     i find this very painfull news, but what more can i say?
Sorry to learn that!  I recall some great episodes of In Concert including Mahavishnu Orchestra!!

My friends Flash were on Midnight Special once, but I missed that show & can't seem to locate a recording!    

Flash will play at Progfest, check out their YouTube postings.  Scale the Summit are also there, talented kids from Texas.  Highly recommended for instrumental prog-metal heads!

thanks for your responses, cstack3. Man, i envy you!Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2010 at 23:41
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

i have not got good news
       It seems that the masters for the Original In Concert series are "missing", which translates as lost or ditched, probably a bit of both-it seems that the concert footage was not considered a money making thing at the time
              Don Kirshner's Rock Concert is a bit of a different story, only problem is that i double checked their complete episode guide and there is no reference to Triumvirat
                     i find this very painfull news, but what more can i say?
Sorry to learn that!  I recall some great episodes of In Concert including Mahavishnu Orchestra!!

My friends Flash were on Midnight Special once, but I missed that show & can't seem to locate a recording!    

Flash will play at Progfest, check out their YouTube postings.  Scale the Summit are also there, talented kids from Texas.  Highly recommended for instrumental prog-metal heads!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2010 at 23:37
Yep, I also saw them back up Fleetwood Mac about 1975!   Mac was touring with the "Heroes Are Hard To Find" LP, and they were really very good!  I like Bob Welch a lot.   

It was a pleasant surprise to have Triumvarate open for Mac, they were brilliant!   Jurgen looked like Emerson, only about 100 kg heavier!    

Koellen was great, he sang/played amazingly well considering he didn't even know English!  He also played a bit of 6-string electric (Les Paul as I recall), and the band's sound was well-balanced!   As I recall, this was shortly before "Spartacus" came out, we all listened to "Illusions" frequently (this concert was at the University of Illinois).   

U of I was prog-central back then!   We were the birthplace of Starcastle and hosted concerts for ELP, Tull, Brand X, tons of others!  Great town back then, even King Crimson took up a residency once (Adrian Belew hails from those parts).  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2010 at 21:50
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

I saw Triumvirate opening for Jefferson Starship and Fleetwood Mac in 1975 at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, Ca.  They played the usual 45 minute opening band set.  I wasn't all that familiar with their music  but I thought they sounded a lot like ELP and even the haircut and leather pants worn by Hans Jurgen looked like he was trying to get that Emerson image on stage.  Not so much the other two.  They were competent without really much of a stage show being the openers and all but they played well . They were better than Fleetwood Mac for sure ( the Bob Welch led band at the time) but it was so short there were not any lasting memories for me expect for the fact I bought Spartacus a short time later.     Sorry i don't have much more to report.  

Still, what you have reported is interesting, thanksSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2010 at 17:54
I saw Triumvirate opening for Jefferson Starship and Fleetwood Mac in 1975 at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, Ca.  They played the usual 45 minute opening band set.  I wasn't all that familiar with their music  but I thought they sounded a lot like ELP and even the haircut and leather pants worn by Hans Jurgen looked like he was trying to get that Emerson image on stage.  Not so much the other two.  They were competent without really much of a stage show being the openers and all but they played well . They were better than Fleetwood Mac for sure ( the Bob Welch led band at the time) but it was so short there were not any lasting memories for me expect for the fact I bought Spartacus a short time later.     Sorry i don't have much more to report.  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2010 at 20:47
while looking at Triumvirat's listing in PA, on ebay is something that is totally new to me
it is a cd initially titled Triumvirat-Uncommon CD
 further investigation has turned up what is  a CD called Triumvirat-Flashback- Various Performances 1974-1975!
       no kidding-there are some tracks prefaced by the word Television-must be audio recordings from TV broadcasts, or could there be something visual?!
          there are other tracks from both Illusions On A Double Dimple and Spartacus from different places in the US-these must all be direct live recordings or live taped from broadcasts! now i do not know if this is from a legitimate , recognised source,but this is exciting, and hopefull
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 16:12
Originally posted by cloviskoba cloviskoba wrote:

Only thing I got is in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jCG2Q4RJb8

That's a melodic song from Pompeii album, sorry for us there's no other published.
thanks, cloviskoba, was aware of that one-only other live one on youtube  is a Swiss tv performance of Waterfall from the A La Carte album-the voice still sounds like Barry Palmer, but onstage is Jurgen Fritz singing and playing piano with a bass player and drummer
                  too bad there is nothing from the Fritz-Bathelt-Koellen period currently, but there is always hopeSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2010 at 14:59
Only thing I got is in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jCG2Q4RJb8

That's a melodic song from Pompeii album, sorry for us there's no other published.
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