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CCVP
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:35 |
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rod65
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:31 |
andyman1125 wrote:
In my opinion, I think many of the classic prog fans don't like the heavier music tainting their genre. If you like Harry Potter, Prog Metal is like half-bloods: where classic prog rock is pure-blood and metal is mud-blood-- when the two mix, the pure-bloods don't like it. |
I am pretty sure that this analogy does not work as classic prog is anything but a "pure" genre. It is this refusal to acknowledge generic boundaries that help to make the music so interesting, and insofar as prog metal also displays this tendency, it is simply following in the footsteps of classic prog. So no, I have to say that the matter of "purity" is probably not terribly relevant. Perhaps the heaviness of the sub-genre puts some people off, as I admit it put me off at first--though once I gave it a chance, I found that my mind changed fairly quickly, and prog metal now makes up a substantial proportion of my listening.
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Peter
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:25 |
Triceratopsoil wrote:
it has nothing to do with whether or not it's prog metal, some people just don't like music that they don't like |
Yes -- I went into more detail as why I don't often like it, but this is true. Tastes are individual, and not purely rational. It's a "gut" thing which often defies analysis.
Two people hear the same music: one loves it, the other loathes it. Both are "right" (if not to each other).
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Adams Bolero
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:25 |
It's too  loud!
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The Truth
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:22 |
Exactly Colin, I don't like most neo-prog but it has absolutely nothing to do with it's heaviness obviously.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:16 |
it has nothing to do with whether or not it's prog metal, some people just don't like music that they don't like
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Peter
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 19:14 |
For me, it's simply because I don't care for much modern metal -- "prog" or otherwise.
I don't think about any supposed "tainting" of prog, or worry about genres, the music simply tends to be too heavy, fast and aggressive for me. It makes me feel anxious/stressed, and I just can't relate or find pleasure in that.
Overall, I favour the softer end of the musical spectrum (folk, etc) much more than the heavier.
Different strokes....
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40footwolf
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 18:42 |
I like progressive metal when it's progressive death/black/doom/what-have-you. I don't like prefix-less prog metal like Dream Theater and their ilk a lot of the time because I find they often have bad songwriting and terrible vocals. Those aren't problems with a band like, say, Opeth or Agalloch, who are two bands who also happen to use their prog roots in far more interesting ways than Dream Theater, as it happens.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: December 05 2010 at 18:33 |
Now don't you go and say "But I like prog metal!!" I know some people do, but a lot of people don't.
Why?
In my opinion, I think many of the classic prog fans don't like the heavier music tainting their genre. If you like Harry Potter, Prog Metal is like half-bloods: where classic prog rock is pure-blood and metal is mud-blood-- when the two mix, the pure-bloods don't like it. Prog metal is essentially the combination of bands that most classic fans don't like, such as Metallica or Slayer, with the bands they do, such as Yes, Genesis or Rush. The resulted product is a tainted one. You wouldn't eat something that had dirt on it would you?
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