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Mirror Image
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 19:43 | |||
Cool, thanks. I might pick this one up tonight.
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28064 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 13:29 | |||
I had a quick look up on Wikipedia:
Jürgen Rosenthal is a German rock drummer. He was a member of Uli Jon Roth's band Dawn Road, but became a member of theScorpions, along with Roth and Francis Buchholz, when Dawn Road was annexed into a lineup with Klaus Meine and Rudolf Schenker. He appeared on one album, Fly to the Rainbow, before having to leave to do his compulsory service with the Army. He later appeared in Eloy,[1] and wrote the lyrics for their successful 1977 album Ocean. He also wrote the lyrics to another successful album Dawn. Jurgen Rosenthal style as a drummer is very unique and it would appear to be a major contributor to Eloy's most successful years (1976-1979) during which they produced Ocean, Dawn, Eloy Live, and Silent Cries Mighty Echoes. The music that Eloy put out during 1976 to 1979 has a lot of fans all around the world for its unique and enchanting character..... Some would say: "Progressive Rock at its best". so Neil Peart wasn't the only drummer who wrote lyrics.. |
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28064 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 13:03 | |||
Eloy live - yep almost mentioned it. Jurgen Rosenthal is a beast on that. If you like powerful unabounded prog drumming go for it
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presdoug
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Posted: August 14 2014 at 11:41 | |||
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presdoug
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Posted: August 14 2014 at 11:39 | |||
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Rick Robson
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 03 2013 Location: Rio de Janeiro Status: Offline Points: 1607 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 09:51 | |||
Never heard it to be honest Doug, and I'll have to ckeck it out for sure, given what you said about it. |
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
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Mirror Image
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 13 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2111 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 09:48 | |||
Well, it's hard to track down for one thing and quite expensive. I believe I read that you're favorite albums are their s/t and Inside, is this correct? It appears you're a fan of their really early period but hardly anything else.
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presdoug
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Posted: August 14 2014 at 09:44 | |||
Their self-titled debut is essential, and an awesome album, and wrongly overlooked. Produced by the late, great Conny Plank.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 14 2014 at 09:25 | |||
This is good to hear. I listened to some of these albums on Spotify and YouTube before I bought them and really enjoyed what I heard. I suppose I should get the 70s Live album as well or should I wait on that one?
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28064 |
Posted: August 14 2014 at 00:51 | |||
Spot on choice. The others are 3 stars are worse so you will have the essential stuff.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 13 2014 at 23:57 | |||
I'm just getting into Eloy. I plan to go through this thread more thoroughly, but, right now, I'm just enjoying the sound-worlds of Ocean and Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes (these are the only albums I have right now).
I have the following on order: Inside Floating Passion and the Power Dawn Colours Planets Time To Turn Tides Return Forever Ocean 2: The Answer |
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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28064 |
Posted: February 09 2013 at 03:59 | |||
I can recommend The Legacy Box featuring some nice archive footage and interviews (in German but subtitles available). Could have done with more earlier footage (most is 1977 onwards) but still very interesting. They were invited to play The Marquee club by the BBC in the mid eighties when they were probably at the height of their popularity in the UK. After that they split up and twas never the same again.
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verslibre
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 17195 |
Posted: February 08 2013 at 08:57 | |||
Same here, I enjoy Performance and Metromania a good deal. It's those great synths and melodic songs. Yes, I like Frank's accented vocals, too. One of my favorite bands.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: February 08 2013 at 07:42 | |||
^^^ awesome to see new Eloy fans getting hooked.
This is the Eloy setlist for 2013- a concert in Jan 24th Eloy Setlist at Ringlokschuppen, Bielefeld, Germany
I like it a lot!!!
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FragileKings
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 10 2012 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 92 |
Posted: February 05 2013 at 05:45 | |||
I had no idea they were this old. I have been checking out their music by listening to a few samples on Amazon, completely unaware that I was listening to albums from the 70's. I just thought they were a modern retro band. Now you have me wanting to listen more intently. At first I thought 70's prog was the only real prog but these days there are some very good bands out there. I'd love to "discover" something new from the 70's.
Right, I am off to Amazon for another listen.
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I used to be a fan of particular bands like Rush, Yes, and Deep Purple. Now I travel the Proglands, exploring a little bit of everything. I have become a Prog Voyager.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 04:07 | |||
Ha! I much prefer the albums `Metromania', `Performance', `Ra', etc over `Destination', they at least still sound like they have vague sci-fi concept to them! None of them are oustanding, but there's enough spacey trademarks, nice guitar/synth moments and plenty of charming Frank's vocals to win me over! Probably more AOR than prog, but I have a soft spot for them!
I'd love to make my way through the back-catalogue and review all their albums too, Scott! We'll see.... |
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dr prog
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 03:03 | |||
This album is cool. The next album is crap though. Metromania has crap drum sound
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 02:41 | |||
All good Aussie BB
back to a mediocre album now though Performance - 1983 Eloy's "Performance" is ironically their worst performance coming out during the turbulent years in 1983 with a revolving door policy of membership. Really the only good thing about it is Bornemann's guitars and occasionally his vocals sound like vintage Eloy. The songs are mediocre and it is replete with filler songs and throwaway material. Not everything is a complete waste of course as the band have so many ideas and great melodies. The stand out tracks are obvious with the great power rock of 'Disguise', although the tinny production of synth drums and too many keyboards is very dated. 'Shadow and Light' is another terrific track with some fine guitar riffs and even the keys are not as cheesy; Bornemann's vocals are wonderful when he is fired up like this.
'Mirador' is a forgettable keyboard driven instrumental that is 3:44 too long in length. There are pink Floyd riff offs such as the driving rhythm guitar and synth of 'Heartbeat'. The intro is sparkling keys that are too bright to remain interesting after a few listens, and the melody is fairly ho hum. 'Fools' is a rock song that the band loved to do live, and it just rocked along, but you won't find any prog here. For that matter it is difficult to find any prog at all on the entire album. 'A Broken Frame' ends things on a better note with atmospheric spacey keys and cool Blade Runnner drone. Bornemann's vocals are gentle and well executed at first. It is a lengthy song with many things going on. It locks into a steady rhythm with some effective keyboard motifs, but it never gets out of that rhythm for variation's sake. The lead guitar break is dynamic and one of the best on the album so all is not lost. Overall this is an album with about 3 tracks that are worth savouring, the rest is a bit of a hodge podge of dated 80s synth mush, only a tad under par from the disappointing "Metromania". It is what it is and of course Eloy went onto better albums. They survived amidst the turmoil of the 80s along with Rush and Yes, who also felt the pressures, though remained enthusiastic under critical fire, and their sound suffered as badly as Eloy. 2 stars awarded for the odd good track, but this is bottom of the barrel as far as Eloy are concerned. |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 05:47 | |||
Scott, was really happy to see you, and I think it was Octopus, if I recall correctly, both gave `Ra' a fair show and decent rating in the last day or two. I really quite like that album, and it usually draws a very volatile negative reaction from many fans!
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: February 04 2013 at 04:09 | |||
Back to greatness and masterpiece status with this treasure
1977 - Ocean "Ocean" is the most revered and famous album from Eloy and close to the best the band has produced, but for me the best album is "Floating" which is also a masterpiece of prog. "Ocean" is certainly an adventurous album with an over emphasis on Frank Bornemann's strained vocals and an over indulgence of the incoherent concept and narrations which is not necessarily a good thing, but it works for the most part. The band are at their best when they take off into full blown keyboard and guitar solos and there are plenty on offer here. This album relies heavily on atmospherics and symphonic soundscapes and is wonderful headphone music. There are only 4 songs but they all feature incredible musicianship and a heavy concept that has something to do with the lost city of Atlantis and Poseidon's power with the divine Logos. The story focuses on the rise and fall of the great mythical city of Atlantis, depicting its creation and its destruction. It throws in the dawn of civilisation, and how it became corrupted by greed, power and lust and finally after the gods had taken all they could take, they proceed to destroy the city to rubble on June 5th 8498 at 13 pm. "Atlantis was the island's name, greatest treasury of all times, human eyes didn't ever see the same, silver and gold, fertile hills, woodlands and plains, it was situated in front of the strait they call "The Columns of Herakles", Kleito was the daughter's name, a princely virgin of clearness and love, so Poseidon fell in love with her and built a shrine on the mountains above surrounded by a golden wall and inside he placed his holy law." The first track is the wonderful 'Poseidon's Creation' that takes off immediately with the narrations and symphonic sounds. After a gentle intro the Hammond blasts in and a rhythm builds in to the main riff. Bornemann's guitar soloing is stellar and it is layered over with another solo blending together perfectly. The bassline is fabulous from Klaus-Peter Matziol and the keyboard skills of Detlev Schmidtchen are superb. The track really gets going at about 8 minutes when the band go into full flight in an instrumental of musical genius. This is an excellent uplifting start to this album. "The act of uppermost magic has begun, Impulses working on and on, Movement here and there, Vibrations Move The Atmosphere! Transcendental forces penetrate The planet we call Earth, and all spheres of the universe All the elements burst!" 'Incarnation of the Logos' drifts in with effortless keyboarding from Schmidtchen and compelling musical textures helped by Matziol's bass and Jürgen Rosenthal's percussion. There are loads of spoken dialogue scattered on here but Bornemann sounds pleasant on vocals. The mellotron soaked background music builds eventually into some dynamic metrics, especially the bassline. At about 3:50 the rhythmic pulse quickens and it becomes majestic and I particularly like the melody line. This one grew on me over time and became another of my favourites. The next vocal section is a mediocre point of the album but the synth laden melody saves it. "From the upper sea of the setting sun, you submit all mankind to toe the line, To toe your line, You commit your frightful arms against the palaces and treasures of our mind, Our innocent mind, That's why you should remember, The duty that's required by your life, Or is it true that you did surrender, Your only possibility to survive?" My favourite track is 'Decay of Logos; with terrific singing and a powerful structure of melodic themes and soloing. The main melody is well executed and again grows on me with every listen. Indeed side 2 of the album is even better than the first side which is excellent in its own right. "A mind power made the rocks sink, And by this power the mass of stones will surface again, Legends kept the secret of their wisdom, And soon it will all be revealed, soon it all will be revealed, 1983, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88." 'Atlantis' Agony At June 5th - 8498, 13 p.m. Gregorian Earthtime' begins with a lengthy passage of 'tron and voice over and then a tolling bell that builds into a stormy spacescape. The band are at their most inventive here, and do not hold back on the atmospherics and effects. The synth dominates in the opening passage, until about 8 minutes when drums and Bornemann's vocals chime in. He sounds great here and the rhythm is steady with some inventive drumming patterns and pulsing bass. There is a divine twin keyboard solo that takes things to another level. The section at 13 minutes is fantastic music, with a spacey nuance and swathes of mellotron. Overall this album is a magnificent slice of space rock featuring an awesome display of musicianship. I can see how the overbearing narrations and concept may not appeal to all, but for 1977 this one stands out well above the rest. It is definitely well worth checking out as an example of one of the best and proggiest from the amazing extensive discography of Eloy. Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - February 04 2013 at 04:10 |
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