Be-gone all you post-Comatorium Volta Haters

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   A little off topic, but my friend burntme their first and last album. I've heard the bedlam enough to know that the music and compositions are really cool, but too action packed, and too much going on in order for me to listen to it even half way through. Is De Loused like this? If o I'll probably listen to it eventually, but I cant say that I'll be able to enjoy it s much as the more chilled out/layed back music I love so much.

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Dim Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890	Posted: June 12 2008 at 20:31
	A little off topic, but my friend burntme their first and last album. I've heard the bedlam enough to know that the music and compositions are really cool, but too action packed, and too much going on in order for me to listen to it even half way through. Is De Loused like this? If o I'll probably listen to it eventually, but I cant say that I'll be able to enjoy it s much as the more chilled out/layed back music I love so much.


Pnoom! Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981	Posted: June 12 2008 at 18:48
	Well I like Frances. A bit overlong, and way self-indulgent (in the not so good way) as all their albums are, but still quite a good album. And I have to say it, they must have the worst lyrics I've ever heard.

PinkPangolin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2006 Location: Somerset (UK) Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:58
	I didn't really mean the crazy noise on Bedlam - I meant more the long-winded relaxed stuff on "Frances the Mute" in the comparison with PF. Fair point though.

Pnoom! Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:56
	PF never used so much noise that that you couldn't tell what the actual song is, which is a rampant problem on Bedlam.

heyitsthatguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:56
	I like the new drummer, but there are parts where he needs to calm the hell down during the quieter parts


PinkPangolin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2006 Location: Somerset (UK) Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:54
	I respect and understand your views - though I'm not sure the singing is any more 'ridiculous' than it always has been. Though I do miss the Spanish used in "Frances the Mute" to be fair. What about the new drummer though - awesome isn't he? Beats the heck out of too much bass-pedalling and blast beats that are used in metal. With the new drummer they have taken a new direction that is more funky and well worth listening to. High pace funk? Never really heard that sort of sound before, quite new. As for the noise in "Frances the Mute" (thanks for your good opinion Moatilliata) - nobody ever moaned when Pink Floyd produced lots of noise!

heyitsthatguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:54
	I love all 4 albums, even though De-loused is my favorite


Pnoom! Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:41
	well... Deloused is their best, clearly. Frances is pretty neat and a worthy followup. Amputechture sucks. It just does. It's bad. And Bedlam is a slight return to form, but it's too much noise, too little songwriting.

Mikerinos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Planet Gong Status: Offline Points: 8890	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:21
	Their most recent album was a disappointment and I can't even listen to it entirely anymore. But I enjoy the first three quite a bit, never really one of my favorites but I certainly don't hate them. and I kind of like the "noise" on Frances the Mute, it is a nice break. Amputechture doesn't have as much, but it doesn't seem nearly as headache inducing as the new one for some reason. Yeah, I really don't like that one, probably one of the few CD purchases I've simply disliked, most are at least decent. Edited by Bluesaga - June 12 2008 at 17:23


laplace Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:08
	I like the first two albums most but I'm not repelled by noise. I'm repelled by the way the singing has gotten so ridiculous and the composition so self-indulgent that it parodies their early, better work. I do still try to stay up-to-date on their music because I'm sure they'll do something else I like at some point.

Moatilliatta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083	Posted: June 12 2008 at 17:04
	Glad you have those views! I'm with you. Though, I could understand why people aren't into the new material as much. It is much more difficult to digest. Prog fans are supposed to like challenges, but maybe all of that noise is just too much for them. I think the band is trying to be inaccessible these days. They still pull off some awesome tunes that everyone should enjoy (Goliath, for example), but each new album as a whole is noiser and more dissonant. I don't see why people focus so much on the noise in Frances the Mute, though. Sure, it takes up a bit more time than we're used to, but shouldn't the high quality of the music override anything like that? I actually like the noise sections for the most part. It's a shame that those people can't adapt to or ignore the noises so they might bask in the glory of the album. Edited by Moatilliatta - June 12 2008 at 17:06
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PinkPangolin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2006 Location: Somerset (UK) Status: Offline Points: 213	Posted: June 12 2008 at 16:43
	On reading through Mars Volta reviews - there appear to be essentially 3 different views - (1) those who love all their music (dudes!), (2) Those who simply hate all of it (I can understand that - it really is like marmite - all those falsetto vocals and exhausting music is not everyone's cup of tea and I respect that), BUT (3) Those who say they really like Deloused in the Comatorium, but hate everything after that - this I don't understand - WHY? Deloused is a really great album (a masterpiece infact). I guess I was lucky in that I acquired "Frances the Mute" first (which remains my favourite) - and so didn't end up comparing everything else to Deloused. Why do you want tMV to always sound like their first album - how are they supposed to live up to that? Aren't bands allowed to progress and experiment with new styles? - I mean other bands on this website would be hideously criticised for not moving on.... Why not try to review each album in it's own righjt - and not compare with Deloused all the time - annoyingly saying each album is never as good! I reckon a new listener should not start with Deloused - other