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zoviet ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2005 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 415 |
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2 great modern krautrock albums to get:
Kriedler - Tank To Roccoco Rot - Hotel Morgen |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Oooohhh I so miss a basement or some place to play Krautrock in!!!! Iīm officially jealous! I would have loved seeing you freak out.
I live on the 12th floor in some apartment, that doesnīt inspire loud music after 10-11 at night - and thatīs pretty much about the time, when I start to get my freak on ![]() Been out of electricity for nearly a month now - and Iīve been living with my folks. Got it back here the other day, and let me just tell you how much Iīve missed visual confirmation, when I go out to have a pee in the mornings... One good thing about the absence of power, has been the focus on jamming. My roommate plays the guitar and I play the drums. Heīs got an old western guitar and I mostly play African/Indian percussion, but it sounds very much like Kraut. We know each other so well now, that you develop almost psychic abilities - and youīll always know what to do - what sounds apt at the right time and so forth. We had a powerful jam here the other night. Problem was that it happened at 4 in the morning after a couple of beers, and I think we were just a tiny bit too loud ![]() Oh well - weīve got Arabian, Senegalese and Moroccan neighbors and the day after - the ones I did pop into didnīt hear anything - and the one guy from Morocco just thought I was great with a clay-drum... That Osmose album still eludes me, and now I have to start at the University again - meaning Iīll be using all my money on books and transport ![]() Iīm gonna listen to it on YouTube instead... See whatīs what!
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14050 |
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Listening right now to ANNEXUS QUAM's "Osmose" album.How good is this ! Love that third track i can keep playing that over and over.And hey the side long closer is pretty experimental stuff. Amazing album.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14050 |
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^ Absolutely brilliant Guld thanks for that. By the way i like the vocals.I watched the whole thing and it was freaking amazing man. You should have seen me and some buddies playing Krautrock on the weekend.My Brother-in-Law has a studio at the back of his house.It's crude with older but good equipment.They're all huge CAN fans and record everything they play and it's all imrovized.Drums,guitar,bass and keyboards with lots of freaky effects.Just a bunch of tripped out freaks we are.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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I donīt know if this has been posted before, but aside from the horrendous vocal performance, this live outburst from French TV anno 1971 is da bomb - and great sound to boot:
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Join Inn is better than the debut, although it still retains marks for its originality. My fave Ashra Tempel is Berceau
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14050 |
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ASH RA TEMPEL's debut and Join Inn are in the same style both with Klause on drums so i think you'll love it.
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The Wrinkler ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2009 Status: Offline Points: 638 |
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Just got Amon Duul II's Wolf City! Awesome album, not as fun as Yeti, but it's an easier listening.
Came a little late on the Wolf City chat... ![]() I still need to get a hold of Join Inn. I really like ART's Schwingungen. No Klaus Schulze on drums though ![]() |
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14050 |
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Some nice choices there Guld especially the last two.ELECTRIC ORANGE is pretty amazing too.
Man i was blown away by ASH RA TEMPEL's Join In oday.i don't remember it being THAT good.You mentioned Gottsching and Schulze and man they impress on this one.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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You know Pedro, I really get what youīre saying - and I certainly donīt subscribe to instantly propelling oneself into the past trying to gain whatever former strength you had back then. It doesnīt work that way, and if you donīt play music for yourself first, but still keeping the naive approach to the music - retaining that ability to play with sounds and ideas - youīll wind up on repeat or far worse, and I donīt think thatīs what music is all about anyhow... And I agree - that those bands you mention maybe have reached their peak ![]() Schulze and Göttsching are also still faves of mine, but to be honest, Iīm keeping myself quite busy with the La Vie Electronique series and The private tapes ![]() Addressing the question: How about music nowadays - where do we find the real deal? And does it even exist? You betcha! Iīve been overwhelmed by the amount of new bands Iīve been getting into! You should really try at least 4 modern records that recently has rejuvenated my faith in music: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18066 |
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I have not yet picked up that CD ... it's on my agenda in a couple of weeks. I've said all along, that the only thing that AD2 needed was someone like me to get over there and kick a few folks in the butt to get some more experiments going ... with one important side effect ... the experiments, would generally mean that Renate would be left out a bit, maybe? ... but I sure would like to tell her to grab a broom, a vacuum cleaner, some boots and add it all on top of the music and watch the others play harder to stay up with her! ... not sure my surrealistic humor would go well, but what the heck!
As for the others:
Floyd is over ... no Richard.
Genesis is over ... too many egos
Crimson is over ... Robert has said so, and what he can get with a band to make KC is not worth it anymore ... I would only see them if it was all the folks from the first 2 albums ... not anyone else!
Can is over ... since Michael Karoli passed away. And Holger doesn't think that early music was worth anything.
Rush is over ... too famous and way too pop/prog defined now
Neu .... not sure anyone wants to redo the old playing around with knobs
Mahavishnu ... John is not over himself that others have played faster than him and meant less to the music!
But there are a few folks that are still at it ... I really think that Klaus Schulze is better than ever! Tangerine Dream is still very good even though I would like to tell Edgar that it is time to go smoke a joint and enjoy life a bit and then come back to the music ... and Manuel Gottsching is still good ... though I think that he could use starting to work with the ladies again ... so he does not become so repetitive!
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He has a totally drugged out voice - and I wouldnīt be surprised if he was on acid at the time, and youīre right it bears some resemblance to those two trippy Can frontmen ![]() I loooove Hawknose Harlequin! I have that version as well, but must admit to not having paid much attention to the bonus tracks.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 14050 |
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Glad to see someone else who appreciates that POSPER album.Amazing album. Listening to ASH RA TEMPEL's "Schwingungen" tonight and i love how experimental this one is.So different from the debut with John L singing in his almost drugged out style.He kind of reminds me of Moody or Damo from CAN the way he performs here. Also listened to AMON DUUL II's "Carnival In Babylon" a couple of times today and it's much better than a lot of people give it credit for.Mine has a bonus track called "Skylight" that is terrific.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Yeah, they had a few of those thatīs for sure, but they were nowhere as bad as the Italians in that department ![]() A very good example of this in Krautrock is Prosperīs album Broken Door. Killer record!
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Good to see you posting Mosh - I really miss these things on PA. I agree with you about Apocalyptic Bore - as it sounds like an exorcism, or some last minute convulsions. Itīs like youīve been talking on the phone for a couple of years - and then youīre cut off from a most interesting conversation, and suddenly all things around you turns into whatever everybody else is talking about. The world becomes real and fathomable. That made sense in my head - just so you know. BUT - I got a phone-call in form of Bee as Such, which made me think that it didnīt just whither away into obscurity - that thing these musicians were striving for - the art as you put it - I rate some of these experiments just as high, and sometimes the music takes on new form and becomes art. - But Amon Düül llīs new album certainly proves that embers burn long after the initial fire has burned out. Now we just need other people ready to pick up the baton, and I think somebody has done that. We just need to open up to stuff that isnīt labelled 70s or Floyd-Genesis-Crimson-Can-Rush-Neu!-Mahavishnu etc etc - you probably catch my drift.
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idoownu ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 01 2010 Status: Offline Points: 75 |
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What amazes me as different in Krautrock compared to many other genres of music is the amount of bands that release one really good album then just disappear. Off the top of my head there is Dom and Yatha Sidhra.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18066 |
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Hi,
Nope ... that would definitly would not be "Moshkito" ... but if there is one song that almost single handedly signaled the end of the "krautrock" age, I really think that "Apocaliptyc Bore" is it ... and if you never EVER have segwayed this with Scorpions title song from "Fly to the Rainbow" ... and you will get the idea real quick ... AD2 and many other bands were already disappointed and disillusioned with the romantic concepts for music and arts and the whole commune thing ... and it shows in their art ... and Apocaliptyc Bore is almost a good bye to the old days ... and it shows ... because the majority of the experimentation and long cuts pretty much ended ... and the band became more song oriented. The opposite side was Scorpions take on it? ... let's get stoned and have a party ... and not take the whole thing so seriously !!! ...
1975 and after, the whole Krautrock scene changed and got corrupted, ripped off and parts of it became commercial and left behind the true experiments in music ... and to me, the "new" bands that came out after that were not that adventurous and while Kraftwerk was ok, listening to Roedelius, Rother and so many others on their own was vastly superior to the commercial stuff that Kraftwerk did --- which to my ears, is not "krautrock" at all.
Likewise, Guru Guru had its own anthem, in the last cut of "Tango Fango", but that is not something that most of us can understand or relate to ... and yet, it was one of the most political comments ever done, in a very satirical and with it style ... that we ... the "progressive" folks, can't even listen to or appreciate ... and to think that the Germany's were not together yet when that came out ... and in the end, the "hero" was the music, not the political philosophies, which is a massive statement by itself, but not something that most progressive folks are willing to discuss ... it's actually very with it and quite enormous and deserves mention with the greatest of artistic comments and appreciation, but instead it is ignored.
And this is one of the reasons why I fight so hard to raise the consciousness of music, with electric instruments that our generation helped design and create ... it's an art form ... that will forever live like so many others! ... but we have to stop discussing it as just stuff that we like! ...
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I actually listened to Yeti yesterday during a walk through the forest. Talk about spiritual - and bewildering. I lost my way - and track of time. That album has a sneaky way of obliterating everything around it, or turning real life into mush. I love it
![]() You just made me put on Gilaīs second album, and itīs waaay past my bed time - you naughty man.. Oh well, whatīs not to like about a record that sounds a bit like Popol Vuh with Connie on guitar - and a very bright moon illuminating my room. Who needs sleep anyways...
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