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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:02 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 22:00 |
Horizons wrote:
Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general.
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I like Rush way more but in all reality it's in the eye of the beholder
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Horizons
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:59 |
Rush is still superior by so many standards for me. They're the reason i'm on this forum, becoming a more serious drummer, and just have a passion for music in general.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:58 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
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Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled. | So I wasn't hallucinating. |
Not that I'm aware of, no.
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:57 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
to me that's their problem and why I don't really like them
they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed |
It's a fair criticism
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:56 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled. |
So I wasn't hallucinating.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:56 |
Can't recall if I voted here, but in case anyone cares, I like Zeppelin better than Rush. It's fairly close though.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:55 |
Actually, the band is called Spirit and the song is called Taurus, in case that hasn't been settled.
I've known both songs for most of my life, and I never really thought the two were THAT similar anyway.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:51 |
Atavachron wrote:
I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed. Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.
But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s). Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something. Many artists are guilty of this. Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things; they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed. Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did-- the best way to steal music is to make your own enough so that no one notices. The Beatles did it well.
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to me that's their problem and why I don't really like them they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:47 |
I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed. Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.
But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s). Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something. Many artists are guilty of this. Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things; they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed. Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did-- the best way to steal music is to make the song your own enough so that no one notices. The Beatles did it well.
Edited by Atavachron - January 16 2013 at 21:59
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:47 |
^ Checking it out.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:46 |
Hey Andrey, the song's name is Spirit
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:42 |
^ I'm not sold, then. I thought David (a.k.a. Atavachron) has pointed it out to you that that a lot of other, even non-rock music acts, commit stealing and borrowing. Renaissance committed the same thing, but the more I listened to how they reworked the music, the less I cared. At least the Zeps gave credit to the notorious bluesmen on their second album. Rick Wright revealed that he took a particular chord from a Miles Davis composition, but you are not gonna bash him for that, right?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 16 2013 at 21:45
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:39 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:34 |
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smartpatrol
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:32 |
smartpatrol wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
Two of my favorite bands. Love them both! But Rush beats LZ any day. They got me into music. |
Edited a bit to reflect what I feel now.
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edited once again
Edited by smartpatrol - January 16 2013 at 21:32
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 16 2013 at 21:18 |
Sonia, you do know that that intro from Stairway to Heaven sounds a lot like a song from a band called Taurus
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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zeqexes
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 01:02 |
Rush
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 21:16 |
timothy learyThey may actually believe when Orwell said Ignorance is strength he actually meant just that. Pigs can fly, I am sure it is true because I heard it said.[/QUOTE wrote:
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 18:49 |
Horizons wrote:
Doesn't mean i can't listen to it, relax. |
I never said that
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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