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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 17:07
The only Yugoslavian band I know is the amazing Begnagrad. Their only album is out of print, but there is some good footage of them on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCVOhg60sNQ
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 08:50
Originally posted by Weirdamigo Weirdamigo wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Tako and Leb i Sol are two wonderful bands!Clap

Sorry Finnforest I totally overlooked your post!

Tako and Leb i Sol are indeed fantastic bands which I will review soon Smile.
By the way to anyone who is reading this, please suggest bands you would like to see on my thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 07:36
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

And guys ? How is it with availability of these bands ? Their releases, is situation good (as with Czech Republic 69-89 - those who were allowed to record/release album), or bad and they're not so available ?
Well, their realeses are available.
Many good bands are already disbanded, of course, but  this is a bad time for good  (and new) rock'n' roll anywhere. There are alot of reasons for that, a long story, imo.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 05:15
And guys ? How is it with availability of these bands ? Their releases, is situation good (as with Czech Republic 69-89 - those who were allowed to record/release album), or bad and they're not so available ?
There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 01:56
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Originally posted by Weirdamigo Weirdamigo wrote:

Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

Heres alot of progressive but not Prog bands, as for example Darkwood Dub>


I have heard of Darkwood Dub before but only by name.
Now I have another band to post about, thanks ko!

P.S: If you, the people on the other side of the screen, have any other prog bands from ex-yugoslavia I haven't reviewed yet about (not the obvious ones like Bulldozer and Korni grupa) please post it here so I can get my work cut out for me Smile.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67093

Ashes You Leave is an excellent band from Yugoslavia which you should check out. Their debut album, where I did all artwork, is brilliant. 

Castrum too is brilliant. I have their first album somewhere here in my castle. I also believe I still have the interview I did with them 10 years ago for the News From The Infested Graveyard newspaper. I also think they released another album a couple of years ago.  


I agree. Ashes You Leave are really great band from Croatia.
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 00:20
Demoniac were  progressive metal band from Belgrade, Serbia, former Yugoslavia. Their debut LP Touch The Wind, from 90s, is the only their stuff  ever recorded and never re-realesed as CD.  Anyway,  pretty nice debut, imho.
 
(English version>)
 
 
Dead Joker, also from Serbia, in 90s issued interresting Venture album, with a number of very short, but nice progressive metal tracks, as those instrumental tracks aswell >>>
 
 
 
Bloodbath  ... from Serbia. They made cool tracks in first half  90s >>>
 
 
 
Alister ( from Serbia, feat. Irina Kapetanovic, female singer from Bosnia, 2006)>
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 16:34
Wow that's amazing!

Thanks for adding another band to the list (actually 3)!
Your artwork is excellent by the way Clap.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 14:47
Originally posted by Weirdamigo Weirdamigo wrote:

Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

Heres alot of progressive but not Prog bands, as for example Darkwood Dub>


I have heard of Darkwood Dub before but only by name.
Now I have another band to post about, thanks ko!

P.S: If you, the people on the other side of the screen, have any other prog bands from ex-yugoslavia I haven't reviewed yet about (not the obvious ones like Bulldozer and Korni grupa) please post it here so I can get my work cut out for me Smile.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67093

Ashes You Leave is an excellent band from Yugoslavia which you should check out. Their debut album, where I did all artwork, is brilliant. 

Castrum too is brilliant. I have their first album somewhere here in my castle. I also believe I still have the interview I did with them 10 years ago for the News From The Infested Graveyard newspaper. I also think they released another album a couple of years ago.  




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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Tako and Leb i Sol are two wonderful bands!Clap

Sorry Finnforest I totally overlooked your post!

Tako and Leb i Sol are indeed fantastic bands which I will review soon Smile.
By the way to anyone who is reading this, please suggest bands you would like to see on my thread.
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------------------------------------------Kerber---------------------------------------------

Kerber (Cerberus)
Founded: 1981
Country: Serbia
Genre: Hard Rock, Heavy Metal (with elements of prog)
Years active: 1981-present

Current Members:
Goran Sepa "Gale" (Vocals)
Tomislav Nikolic (Guitar)
Branislav "Bane" Bozinovic (Keyboard)

Former Members:
Zoran Madić
Zoran Zikic
Zoran Stamenković
Boban Đorđević
Dragoljub Đuričić
Milorad Džmerković
Branko Isaković
Josip Hartl
Saša Vasković
Vladan Stanojević
Goran Đorđević
Nemanja Gušić
Vlada Karadžov

Discography (Studio albums):

Nebo je malo za sve (The sky is a little for everyone)
1983
Ratne Igre (War games)
1984
Seobe (Migration)
1986
Ljudi i bogovi (Humans and gods)
1988
Peta strana sveta (Fifth side of the world)
1990
Zapis (Inscription)
1996
*can't post the live album 121288 from the year 1989
Forword:
Kerber cannot be seen as progressive rock yet you can compare them with the hard rock band Deep purple, not quite prog yet it does have a prog-like sound to it.
Even though they are fairly unknown internationally, they have opened for Uriah Heep and for the legendary Ronnie James Dio (RIP) and have worked with Malcolm Davies who recorded Abbey Road with the Beatles.
A shocking fact: Kerber had more line-up changes than Deep purple.

Foundation:
Kerber was founded in Nis (Mountainous area in southern serbia) 1981 by vocalist Goran Sepa , who is known for his unique voice and curly hair, by Tomislav Nikolic (Guitar),Branislav Bozinovic (Keyboards), Zoran Madic (Bass) and Stamenkovic (Drums) and were first known as Top (Cannon). The name was changed late 1981.
Before their first album in 1983 they were playing at local clubs in serbia, particulary in Kerbers hometown Nis while working on new material for the before mentioned album.
Zoran Madic left the band in 1982 because of the military duty in JNA and was replaced by "Mama Rock" bassist Zoran Zigic, who turned Kerbers little performances into spectacles by wielding axe-like guitars and breathing fire on stage ( On a misfortunate night he burned himself while performing the "Dragons Breath". Luckily he was not severly injured but the band forbade him to use the stunt on stage).

Early 1983 Kerber had won first place at "Omladinski festival" in Subotica (serbia) with their song "Mezimac" (Minion) which was an honor for the young members of Kerber who had yet to release their first album.

Mezimac:


The three headed dog on it's way to fame:
In 1983 Kerber released their first album "Nebo je malo za sve" (recorded with Malcolm Davies) which was a huge commercial success selling over 10000 copies in the first week of it's release. It features their first hit "Mezimac" as well as many other fantastic song:

The song "Kao tvoj kerber" (Like your cerberus) is one of my personal favorites:

Kao tvoj kerber:


and the (slightly) prog influenced song nebo je malo za sve:
Nebo je malo za sve:



Kerber opened for the bands "Nightwing" and "Ten years after" late 1983 and performed at Opatija (Croatia) at a music festival, despite a good performance the bands hard rock sound did not feel welcome on the pop stage
In 1984, during a concert in Novi Sad, bassist Zoran Zigic attempted the "Dragons breath" but failed and suffered minor burns, luckily no greater injuries have been made.

Ratne Igre and new drummer:
The second album "Ratne igre" was recorded late 1984 in Saughall a village near Chester while they were performing minor gigs in Liverpool and Chester. For these concerts they played an english version of their hit "Mezimac" entited "Get me out of here".
The song "ratne igre" has become one of there signature as the second album shared the commercial success of the first album and the positive reviews from the critics.

Ratne Igre:


The album has a very interesting album cover showing a tanks armor as a phone and it's cannon as lipstick.
The song compares a war-like situation with a failing relationship and has some very nice lyrics in the refrain:

Nek sada ratne igre prestanu
jer vise niceg nemu u tebi, u meni
u mome srcu kise padaju
u dusi veju crni snegovi

translated:
Let now the war games end 
for there is nothing left in it for you, in it for me
in my heart rains are falling
in my soul black snow(*) are blowing

*In slavic languages there is a plural for snow.

Some major line-up changes have been made. Stamenkovic was replaced by Boban Dordjevic who was,couple of months later, replaced by "Leb i sol" member Dragoljub Duricic.


In November 1985 Kerber was awarded the "Smeli Svet" by the League of Communist Youth of Serbia for outstanding contribution to rock music.

Peak of success with Seobe:
Seobe (Migration) is seen by critics and fans alike to be Kerbers greatest work. Ballads like "Seobe"(Which I believe is Kerbers most progressive track) and "bolje sam druge ljubio" (I kissed others better) have thrown the emotional songwriting of Kerber into high gear while providing great rock songs like "Covek od meda" (Man of honey) and "Hajde da se volimo" (Come lets love each other). It is also the first time Kerbers official logo of three dog heads is shown 

Seobe:


Beli tragovi (white trails):


Seobe album cover:




Preserving quality with "Ljudi i bogovi":

"Ljudi i bogovi" (Humans and gods) was published in 1988 which was another successful album.
It features "Manifest" the first song by Kerber to feature lyrics about politics.
Although no clear stance, it's talks about how it would be if communism dissolved in yugoslavia (which it did in 1992) and says how we will all become our own presidents and our own judges (in a positive as well as in a negative way)

Manifest:


First commercial failure and Hiatus:
In 1989 the first live album "121288" of Kerber was disliked by critics and fans at best and the band took a hiatus until 1990.


"Peta strana sveta" fans were not let down:
After catastrophic "121288" Kerber released "peta strana sveta" (Fifth side of the world). While not a loved as the first albums of the band the album was awarded good reviews.
Some songs have become essential in Kerbers arsenal like "Igraj sad" (Play now)

Igraj sad*:


*Sorry about the pic but this video has the best quality.

After the more-or-less successful album they recorded the song "April u beogradu" (April in belgrade), originally by famous musician Zdravko Colic, for the belgrade spring festival.

They went on a six year hiatus after the festival.

Zapis, new line-up and Hiatus (again)
Before the new album was recorded Goran Sepa had recruited a entirely new 6 man line-up.
The hiatus ended with the release of the album "Zapis" (Inscription) in 1996 which features mostly unrecorded songs the band wrote for the album "Nebo je malo za sve". Zapis got mixed reviews but is held in high regard by fans.
My personal favorite is "Cudna stvar" (Odd thing) mostly because of the dinamic guitar intro.

Cudna stvar:


In 1999 Kerber was asked to perform as the opening act for Ronnie James Dio in Sofia (Bulgaria).

Kerber today:
Goran Sepa has been rejoined with founding members Tomislav Nikolic and Branislav Bozinovic, making Kerber a 3-man band for the first time.
Kerber fans can rejoice, a new album is planned to be released late 2010, 14 years after the release "Zapis".

Hope you enjoyed the post and keep your eyes peeled for the next one folks cause the famous band Indexi are up next. Smile






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 09:12
It would be nice if he could check my blog out, he definitely knows more about yugoslav prog than I do .

I'll also post on your thread after I'm done posting Kerber :) (Great thread by the way!).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 20:40

You really should wait for this guy:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8868

to come back from his forced holidays. He's from Croatia, he's in Eclectic team and he's really supporting bands from ex-Yugoslavia a lot. He'll be back in few weeks I suppose.


By the way, you're welcome to jump into my thread as well. Link is in my signature for example.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 18:02
Tako and Leb i Sol are two wonderful bands!Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 16:47
Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

Heres alot of progressive but not Prog bands, as for example Darkwood Dub>


I have heard of Darkwood Dub before but only by name.
Now I have another band to post about, thanks ko!

P.S: If you, the people on the other side of the screen, have any other prog bands from ex-yugoslavia I haven't reviewed yet about (not the obvious ones like Bulldozer and Korni grupa) please post it here so I can get my work cut out for me Smile.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 14:55
Heres alot of progressive but not Prog bands, as for example Darkwood Dub>


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 13:56
Originally posted by ko ko wrote:

@Weirdamigo

Smak's "Crna Dama album was recorded (succesfuly)  in Belgrade PGP's "Studio 5", not somewhere in New York 1976 as you mentioned. You can read that on the album jacket. Also, Crna Dama was recorded later on. Yes, they get a free tickets ("Smak are gonna to play in a plane"LOL - well, it was communism Smile) for that promo JAT fly, but they were just tourists that time.
 
Regards, bro!

I fail obviously LOL.
That was my fault for my lack of knowledge and the fault of that one friend whose always giving wrong information (such as saying that Mihailovic was in Bulldozer.... yeah right!) and the fault of my poor CD collection ( Smak, Bioskop Fox and Stranice naseg vremena).

Thanks for pointing that out ko!

Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

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Originally posted by ljubaspriest

Finally,someone with enough time and passion on their hands to make post about Yugoslavian prog-rock music of the past.Not too many names who fit the  specific definition of the genre,but some of them an absolute delights to anyone ready to breach language barrier in search for musical catharsis.Indexi's "Modra rijeka",Time's self titled debut,Korni grupa's debut,Tako's both albums,Smak's "Stranice naseg vremena",Buldozer's first couple albums,Leb i sol's seventies albums and many more are well worth investigating and I hope Weirgamigo is going to continue with this interesting journey.Way to go & svaka cast,Dusane!
Izvinjavam se,STEVANE!My apologies!

Thank you for the compliment ljubaspriest! sadly, yes I do have a lot of TIME on my hands LOL(I'm no good at puns).
With all my friends gone on holidays the only things I can do is listening to music,playing the guitar, and making this blog which I of course will continue until all bands are covered. 
Little Spoiler: After the Kerber entry I will post Indexi next.

Don't worry about getting my name wrong, desava se (it happens). 
I hope you enjoy my upcoming posts.Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 11:15
Originally posted by ljubaspriest ljubaspriest wrote:

Finally,someone with enough time and passion on their hands to make post about Yugoslavian prog-rock music of the past.Not too many names who fit the  specific definition of the genre,but some of them an absolute delights to anyone ready to breach language barrier in search for musical catharsis.Indexi's "Modra rijeka",Time's self titled debut,Korni grupa's debut,Tako's both albums,Smak's "Stranice naseg vremena",Buldozer's first couple albums,Leb i sol's seventies albums and many more are well worth investigating and I hope Weirgamigo is going to continue with this interesting journey.Way to go & svaka cast,Dusane!
Izvinjavam se,STEVANE!My apologies!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 11:00
Finally,someone with enough time and passion on their hands to make post about Yugoslavian prog-rock music of the past.Not too many names who fit the  specific definition of the genre,but some of them an absolute delights to anyone ready to breach language barrier in search for musical catharsis.Indexi's "Modra rijeka",Time's self titled debut,Korni grupa's debut,Tako's both albums,Smak's "Stranice naseg vremena",Buldozer's first couple albums,Leb i sol's seventies albums and many more are well worth investigating and I hope Weirgamigo is going to continue with this interesting journey.Way to go & svaka cast,Dusane!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 03:57

@Weirdamigo

Smak's "Crna Dama album was recorded (succesfuly)  in Belgrade PGP's "Studio 5", not somewhere in New York 1976 as you mentioned. You can read that on the album jacket. Also, Crna Dama was recorded later on. Yes, they get a free tickets ("Smak are gonna to play in a plane"LOL - well, it was communism Smile) for that promo JAT fly, but they were just tourists that time.
 
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-------------------------------------------Time----------------------------------------------

Name: Time
Founded: 1971
Country: Croatia
Genre: Progressive rock, Rock, Jazz
Years active: 1971-1977

Former members:
Dado Topic
Tihomir Pop Asanovic
Vedran Bozic
Mario Mavrin
Ratko Divjak
Brane Lambert Zivkovic
Pečo Petej
Ivan "Piko" Stančić
Karel Novak Čarli
Mladen Baraković
Nenad Zubak
Christopher Nicholls

Discography:

Time
1971
Time II
1975
Zivot u cizmama sa visokom petom (Life in boots with high heels) 
1976

NOTE: There are fantastic reviews about these albums by a dozen members.
(Thanks go to In the flesh?,FruMp, clarke2001,bsurmano, Seyo,  erik neuteboom and ljubaspriest!)

Foundation:
Time can be considered as one of the most progressive rock bands in ex-yugoslavia.
Time was founded in 1971 by Dado Topic, who left the band "Korni grupa" at the time, and by manager Vladimira Mihaljeka.

"Time" the first album:
With experienced musicians such as Dado Topic(Korni grupa), Tihomir Pop Asanovic(Generals), Vedran Bozic (Gresnici,Roboti,Wheels of fire,),Mario Mavrin(BP,Convention),Ratko Divjak,(Dinamiti,BP,Convention) and Brane Lambert Zivkovic (Grupa 220) how could the first album "Time" not be a success? The first self-titled album was a great success with positive reviews by critics.

With an elegant progressive sound, one could really relax listening to this masterpiece of yugoslavian prog.

Pjesma No.3 (Song No.3)



"Time II"
With the pressure of a successful album and the pressure of demanding fans, Time had to release a new album to please the masses. Though some problems occurred, like Dado Topic refusing to serve military duty in the JNA (Jugoslav People's Army), the album was recorded without further complications (Divjak and Asanovic were serving military duty but were lucky stationed in Ljubljana were the band had often recorded) and was released in 1975.

The album "Time II" cannot be compared to the debut album "Time".
As Topic later did in "Smak" , he moved on from progressive rock onto mainstream rock as can be clearly heard on the album.

The album received mixed reviews from critics who were hoping for a progressive rock album.

Alfa romeo GTA:


High Heels and Disbandment:
For the next album Topic had constructed an almost completely new line up, suprisingly replacing Asanovic with Nicholls on the keyboards to which the fans negatively responded. 

Zivot u cismama sa visokom petom (Life in boots with high heels) revolves around Rockstar life and is regarded by fans and critics alike to be the bands most unsuccessful album.
Not one bit of prog, only mainstream rock.

Rock'n roll u beogradu (Rock'n roll in belgrade):


In 1976 Topic tried to create a supergroup called "K2" (which never came to be) and it was clear that he had no plans for Time after he hired two student musicians to replace Divjak and Nicholls. A couple of months later in 1977, The band ceased to exist

I hope you enjoyed the second post of my blog and I will continue the journey of prog in yugoslavia with the hard rock band Kerber (Cerberus).





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