lets discuss Wikileak

TODDLER wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Serious question: are you suffering from some form of mental illness? No. But I'm sick and tired of reading posts written by 2010 degenerates who  hate their own country. Get it? I'm sick of their stupied and insulting threads on bands who are completely worthless like YES and Genesis. It's like sticking your face in a garbage can. But of course.....that makes a person mentally ill right? Why? What do people from your planet do? Worship Paul Green and Jon Anderson? Pledge to Prog.Ears? Respect Glenn Beck or Juilan Assange? What does a person have to do on here? Go with your flow? Follow your rules? I thought this was Prog Archives not Prog ears?

I, for one, love my country. You do tend to post long, seemingly irrelevant rants that no one can understand, though. For example, the one above barely makes sense. It starts out okay, but then wanders over into crazy town. I don't blame Henry for wondering.

Henry Plainview wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: stonebeard wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: I don't think the site should be shut down but I think whoever leaked all of those American documents should be punished to the fullest.That's called treason pure and simple.   I don't know if it is technically treason is it? Don't you have to actively defect or work directly for another country to be convicted of treason? If anything at all this could only indirectly and tangently harm the United States' reputation.   Treason:   1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign. 2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state. 3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.   Being a member of the military,downloading top secret classified documents and leaking them to anybody would be number 3 on that list.   The last guy that did this is looking at 50 years at hard labor in a military prison.They're lucky,years ago it would have been life or execution(deservedly so,imo). That last definition is in the dictionary for common usage but is not the legal one. Not even Manning is being charged with treason and he leaked war documents. If you support the execution of Manning, or for whomever leaked the cables, then you terrify me.  As for their release, diplomats do need to do things that would be embarrassing if the public knew about them, so I'm not sure about these documents. However, one thing people seem to be overlooking is that, as I understand it, these documents were accessible by a large number of people, which is how so many of them were able to be leaked, so they were probably already significantly self-censoring. TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: If the information doesn't help or hurt anybody then isn't it better to have it than not to have it?  I don't know. My imagination is running wild with this lately. It feels dangerous to me. Or maybe, I feel shocked by the news cast itself. I can't put my finger on it but, for some unknown reason or gut feeling, it disturbs me. Don't take this offensively, because it's not meant to be, but I find your reaction to this very disturbing.  It's the Glenn Beck Show! starring that star of stars, the one and only....Glenn Beck! A very contemptuous little intellect that gives YOU..the viewer, ....the assurance that the God Julian Assange is worshipped highly in this country because the majority of our American social system is based on communism. Very nice. Serious question: are you suffering from some form of mental illness?

No. But I'm sick and tired of reading posts written by 2010 degenerates who  hate their own country. Get it? I'm sick of their stupied and insulting threads on bands who are completely worthless like YES and Genesis. It's like sticking your face in a garbage can. But of course.....that makes a person mentally ill right? Why? What do people from your planet do? Worship Paul Green and Jon Anderson? Pledge to Prog.Ears? Respect Glenn Beck or Juilan Assange? What does a person have to do on here? Go with your flow? Follow your rules? I thought this was Prog Archives not Prog ears?

The former loves government and the latter loves the status quo. No big surprise there. 

Looks like the Swedes have issued another arrest warrent for Assange, for sexual assault. I guess they have to get him off the streets somehow and safely locked up, where he could do no more harm. If his next stop was the banks, then that is serious. I mean really serious. Attacking Wall Street is an attack on the puppet masters, and that can not be tolerated.

Maybe he is a screaming pervert, but I'd bet a reasonable sum of money that he isn't, but it's a damn good way to assassinate his character. No one likes a pervert, regardless of their politcal inclinations. I guess we'll never know if he is or isn't. We just have to trust the authorities...enough said.

BBC Article

Edited by Blacksword - December 02 2010 at 07:53

TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: If the information doesn't help or hurt anybody then isn't it better to have it than not to have it?  I don't know. My imagination is running wild with this lately. It feels dangerous to me. Or maybe, I feel shocked by the news cast itself. I can't put my finger on it but, for some unknown reason or gut feeling, it disturbs me. Don't take this offensively, because it's not meant to be, but I find your reaction to this very disturbing.  It's the Glenn Beck Show! starring that star of stars, the one and only....Glenn Beck! A very contemptuous little intellect that gives YOU..the viewer, ....the assurance that the God Julian Assange is worshipped highly in this country because the majority of our American social system is based on communism. Very nice.

What the hell?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: If the information doesn't help or hurt anybody then isn't it better to have it than not to have it?  I don't know. My imagination is running wild with this lately. It feels dangerous to me. Or maybe, I feel shocked by the news cast itself. I can't put my finger on it but, for some unknown reason or gut feeling, it disturbs me. Don't take this offensively, because it's not meant to be, but I find your reaction to this very disturbing.

The definition makes me think you should get a medal for treason rather than a hanging. 

TheProgtologist wrote: I don't think the site should be shut down but I think whoever leaked all of those American documents should be punished to the fullest.That's called treason pure and simple.

I don't know if it is technically treason is it? Don't you have to actively defect or work directly for another country to be convicted of treason? If anything at all this could only indirectly and tangently harm the United States' reputation.

JJLehto wrote: Yeah, he does strike me as a bit of a douche, but really is that unexpected? How Obama feels about all this "open and transparent government is something that the President believes is truly important. But the stealing of classified information and its dissemination is a crime" lol oops not THAT open and transparent!

thellama73 wrote: TODDLER wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: If the information doesn't help or hurt anybody then isn't it better to have it than not to have it?  I don't know. My imagination is running wild with this lately. It feels dangerous to me. Or maybe, I feel shocked by the news cast itself. I can't put my finger on it but, for some unknown reason or gut feeling, it disturbs me. As long as the information doesn't flat out deliver our soldiers into the hands of our enemies, I would rather have it out in the open. I don't like the ease with which the Feds can cover up their actions.

Actually,...this makes me feel a little better. I get your point and I can relate to it. thanks for your insight.