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cuncuna
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Joined: March 29 2005
Location: Chile
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 17:07 |
Mr. Wilson. Opeth is flat...
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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Points: 16818
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 16:58 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
FishyMonkey wrote:
Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music. | The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.
I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it |
I disagree with the sentiments about BE. The concept is the most developed of any of POS but that hardly means the music was neglected. In face it's much more dynamic than on any previous POS album, and of a higher quality than all of them except Rememdy Lane. Which is hardly dull, and what it lacks in its "one sided" concept, it more than makes up through the rainbow of emotions expressed. |
The emotions is what I like about Remedy Lane, but it doesn't make up for the lack of somethign I can't describe that I like about PoS.
I still like it a lot though
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Yukorin
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Joined: November 21 2005
Location: Japan
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Points: 1589
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 16:29 |
Edited by Yukorin - September 14 2006 at 07:27
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Equality 7-2521
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
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Points: 15784
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 16:04 |
King of Loss wrote:
FishyMonkey wrote:
Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music. | The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.
I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it |
I disagree with the sentiments about BE. The concept is the most developed of any of POS but that hardly means the music was neglected. In face it's much more dynamic than on any previous POS album, and of a higher quality than all of them except Rememdy Lane. Which is hardly dull, and what it lacks in its "one sided" concept, it more than makes up through the rainbow of emotions expressed.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005
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Points: 1864
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:29 |
Another vote for Steve. Then again, I'm a sucker for anything with a psychedelic flavor.
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Pure Brilliance:
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FishyMonkey
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Joined: May 13 2005
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Points: 127
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:28 |
King of Loss wrote:
FishyMonkey wrote:
Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music. |
The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.
I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it |
All a matter of opinion. I like Entropia a lot, it's my third favorite PoS release. So schizophrenic and awesome. I do agree that the BE DVD is amazing, though. Like I said, it's all opinions. I happen to love Remedy Lane, and hate BE. Woo.
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:17 |
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Tony R
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Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:09 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Tony R wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
Tony, where are you when you are needed?
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Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...
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Well what's there to argue about?
SW is a seriously talented musician,singer,composer,producer,and lyricist.....and Akelfeld has a singing style designed to clear all wildlife off the nearest 40 acres.
Rush are the most talented bunch of musicians in the world,continue to release wonderfully progressive albums and those who dont agree will get Terminated.
And for a fee I am willing to accompany ladies "of a certain age"
Ok?
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Raff
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:09 |
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:06 |
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Raff
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:04 |
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Ricochet
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Tony R
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:58 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Tony, where are you when you are needed?
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Well I could be on gigolo duty if you asked nicely...
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Raff
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:55 |
Tony, where are you when you are needed?
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:50 |
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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Points: 16818
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:49 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!
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Yea, but its pretty much poop.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:47 |
New Rush isn't pop, Flossy!
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:46 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.
IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands. | New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice. | As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement... *rushes for flame shield*Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking... | I wasn't bashing them, Raffaella, I was just stating what I feel is the current situation with the band. While I don't think Vapor Trails is the greatest album ever, it had more than enough great moments to make me give it a steady rotation in my cd player. Still, wouldn't it be awesome for a sequel to Hemispheres or a wild instrumental like La Villa to pop up randomly on their next album? |
On the other hand, I can't stand new Rush, because Geddy's voice is mellowier and I liked the heavier Geddy. Plus I don't think new Rush is even good pop.
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Melomaniac
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Joined: May 07 2006
Location: Canada
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:46 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
New Rush is just not good, they should think about trying to write more 10 minute songs than boring 5 minute pop songs.
IQ, on the other hand, is growing. One of my favorite Neo-Prog bands. |
New Rush isn't the best out there, but they're trying and that's really all that counts. And they are comfortable where they are at musically and I don't think they plan on returning to the 10 minute Sci-Fi vibe they went for in the late 70s ever again, but it would be nice.
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As if Micky was not enough, there's more people dissing Rush around here... Anyway, who says that 10-minute songs are better than 5-minute ones? DT are proof enough of the untruth of this statement...
*rushes for flame shield*
Then, I don't really think that the songs on "Vapor Trails" have much to do with pop. Perhaps Rush did some poppier tracks in the past, but their new direction seems rather different to me. Then again, perhaps it's just the fangirl in me speaking...
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I wasn't bashing them, Raffaella, I was just stating what I feel is the current situation with the band. While I don't think Vapor Trails is the greatest album ever, it had more than enough great moments to make me give it a steady rotation in my cd player. Still, wouldn't it be awesome for a sequel to Hemispheres or a wild instrumental like La Villa to pop up randomly on their next album?
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Rush has always been about trying out new approaches to their music, and that is the key to their longevity ; fans wondering "What's next?". Even though I really enjoy ALL their albums except TfE, which still has it's moments (the fanboy in me had to scream this ) and especially the late 70's early 80's period, I would not want them to do that all over again... but if they did, I have to admit I would be really happy !
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King of Loss
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Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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Points: 16818
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Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:44 |
FishyMonkey wrote:
Remedy Lane, one sided? Please. True, it deals with the torment of one person, and BE is very complicated. Be does have a good concept, but Gildenlow seems to have forgotten about making good music in the process. It's practically 75% concept, 25% music. |
The music that is available on that album owns anything on Remedy Lane. Remedy Lane does have its moments, its just overrated and very dull compared to other PoS releases. Only Entropia is weaker IMO.
I agree with Bluesaga, The BE DVD does own the BE studio album. Gildenlow's presence is just too heavy in the dvd to forget about it
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