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Falsetto singers usually have a 4 or more octive voice. Frankie Valli has 5. I don't think McCartney is in that class
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Does sound like falsetto to me.
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He absolutely sings in falsetto: listen at the 1:05 mark (it's not the "screamy" voice section): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slF3EBxZE6A I wish some real trained singers would chime in here. Singers don't always resort to falsetto/head voice because they can't hit the note; sometimes it's the tone they desire. Originally someone said that Collins was singing off-key, because he used head voice at one point. I believe Collins chose to use it; it was an aesthetic choice. He could absolutely hit those notes, as other recordings prove. Talented, well-trained singers can blend between head and chest voice so that you don't even notice the transitions, and blend back and forth between the two seamlessly. But most cannot do this, not without training and instruction.
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Fair point, I thought I might as well join in. It makes a change from going round in a permanent circle of Rush being prog or not prog.
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^ This thread has been off-topic since day one. And I'm not sure, after 22 pages of wildly fluctuating subject matter, why anyone would care if it's on-topic. It should be exiled to the "Just For Fun" section of the forum.
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So I thought I clicked on the "Are Rush prog" thread and I find myself reading about Collins, McCartney and falsetto singing! Talk about off-topic.
btw - I'm not sure that McCartney's "screamy" voice as used in Maybe I'm Amazed is actually falsetto. I believe he achieved that by gargling bleach.
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Well, you guys did it.
You finally f**king did it. This thread has gone back and forth for so many pages it's actually created a parallel timeline where Rush is both and neither prog, like some sort of Schrodinger's Prog Cat bullsh*t. I hope you're happy, Prog/Not Prog Archives!
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I do too but most people don't because it's not common knowledge.
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Stop it. We are talking about one particular song that did not require falsetto and Phil having to resort to it because it was out of his register. If Phil were to try to sing Hey Jude the way Paul sang it, he'd have to put his nuts in a vice.
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Yep and do you know the real reason why those singers from the sixties sang that way?
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I can think of numerous times offhand when McCartney sang in falsetto to reach higher notes - Hey Jude, Maybe I'm Amazed, Check My Machine, My Love, Helter Skelter. Singers use falsetto all the time. It's actually a quite desirable and pleasant tool to have, although it takes skill and talent to pull off - which both McCartney and Collins were able to do.
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That's from their covers album, Big Bang Theory. I don't usually go for those, and I'm one of the "no Dennis, no Styx" guys. But one of these days, I will listen to The Mission, because I understand they made a good concept album, and I do like Gowan as a singer.
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Some Beatles covers can be very good. Did you ever hear the Styx cover of I Am The Walrus?
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