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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 07:56
I feel sorry for you.

But there's a long list of bands I don't like (pretty much go down the list of Neo Prog and Prog Metal artists...)

There's plenty out there to enjoy. It's all subjective.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 07:37
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I honestly cannot reasonably expect everyone to enjoy this band's level of intricacy...and I'm not even arguing that "the more tech the better". Gentle Giant is/was its own entity. What an amazing 10 year period that band's existence was!
This. They were legendary. I'm perplexed on how many others cite The Power and the Glory as a go-to album. Advice? Delve into In a Glass House with a fury, allotting more than just a couple listens for this masterpiece.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CosmicVibration Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 07:31

Gentle Giant is the sh*t!

Top 5 Baby!

Heard them for the first time (Octopus) when I was 14.  Dug em from the first spin.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dougmcauliffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 07:09
Alright after reading these comments, I’ll give Aquiring the Taste a listen

Edit: well I’m 4 songs in... and I actually like this one, like someone said, it’s more melodic. Well I’ll listen to the rest after work, post invalid?

Edited by dougmcauliffe - July 30 2019 at 07:31
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 06:50
I honestly cannot reasonably expect everyone to enjoy this band's level of intricacy...and I'm not even arguing that "the more tech the better". Gentle Giant is/was its own entity. What an amazing 10 year period that band's existence was!

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Chaser Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 06:25
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Well I apologize in advance to gentle giant fans...

I’ve really tried with these guys but I’m just not hearing what everyone else is. The only song that doesn’t give me a headache is proclamation. When I’m listening I realize their music is very unique but overall I just think... it’s bad. I’ve listened to power and the glory, octopus and in a glass house and free hand all a couple times now and I just can’t get into it. I can usually get into most prog, I hated van der graaf on first listen but now that’s a favorite, but with them I feel there is plenty of movement in their songs, with gentle giant I feel like they play 2 riffs a song and then do some uncomfortable vocal harmonies. I think so sincere may be one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard.

Spock’s Beard and Neal Morse imitating gentle giant is more enjoyable then gentle giant to me

Does anyone else have a similar experience with other popular artists?
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 05:57
I think it’s all a matter of personal taste, so if you don’t like them, even though you recognize their talent, it’s ok. There are a lot of popular bands and artists I don’t really like, but I acknowledge their talent, it’s just that their music doesn’t appeal to my taste, and there’s no crime in that I think.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 01:25
GG is one of my favorite bands of all time, and I totally understand why they are NOT most people's cup of tea. It's not easy music to get into. It almost requires being obsessed with complexity to some degree. As others have said, perhaps an Acquired Taste is an accurate statement.

Their use of counterpoint, syncopation, and melody - often simultaneously - sounds like cacophony to most people. Perhaps I got lucky starting with Gorguts and Captain Beefheart; my ears were plenty in shape for the Giant then!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frankh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 00:14
And I bought all three of those 70's albums.

lol

Actually did own virtually their entire discography on vinyl by 1979.
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frankh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2019 at 00:12
Try the version of So Sincere on the Playing The Fool live album.
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 23:50
Well the thing is that in the seventies they sold about 3 albums so there were plenty of people who didn't get them in the day when they were supposed to be liked. You could say the same about VDGG (apart from Italians who do everything differently anyway)

I started listening to them about 18 years ago and instantly almost stopped. It was a really slow process over about 4 years of drip feeding a few tracks here and there that I gradually got into them. Now I would put The Power and The Glory in my top twenty albums quite happily. I persevered with them only because of their fans who are so devoted and passionate about their music. So I would say that 2 or 3 listens just isn't going to do it unless you really just want to give up on them altogether because its too much effort. Oh and also ponder this .. Apparently Keith Emerson reckoned they invented a new form of music. That is some praise to get from one of your peers!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 21:24
Actually, I started getting into GG and VdGG at the same time. I ordered 4 Generator albums at once (the best rated ones) and Playing the Fool from GG. Without having heard them first. At first I thought I had finally gone too far with this choices... but I did end up loving VdGG. GG took me more, I just couldn't get into that album, and I had heard The Power and the Glory on YouTube and didn't do much for me either, so since Playing the Fool was supposed to have some of their better songs, I didn't expect to try any further... yet, somehow I was convinced to give their first albums a try, and I got their first 4 ones, which I did like better... speically their very first two I did come to love. Perhaps you could give those ones a chance, they are more melodic, and for me, charming. After that they started getting gradually less melodic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 17:10
I find GG a hit or miss with me what I love I love--what I don't I really don't but its undeniable they are amazing musicians ---live concert is great---
I can't stand VDGG sounds like a parody of what prog music is---but many love them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 16:19
Gentle Giant is a odd duck, dare I say a musician's band?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Howard the Duck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 15:39
I really like GG but I still can't really get into most of VdGG, or Tull for that matter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Prog-jester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 15:35
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I hated van der graaf on first listen but now that’s a favorite
Hah, same. Also couldn't get into VDGG and GG, but now VDGG is one of my all-time fave bands.

I listened again to GG discography this winter, in another attempt of "getting" them, and that was my most successful one - loved quite a lot of songs actually! I'd suggest you focus on the debut LP (my fave one), their most "conventional" prog record, and also try later-days LPs which are not fully prog... but that's where they become enjoyable for me Check this track out, for example, my mom LOVES it:



Also later-day GG freakin ROCKS! And yes, check these live versions especially:



Enjoy!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Arnulf Floyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 11:08
Clearly is taste here. I tried to listen to GG 2 years and I am disturbed by a song because I considers too harsh for my ears which love more ”poppier„ side of rock music maybe if I give a listening today I will like it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 10:45
It's all about taste. Typically if you like one band in a certain subgenre you will like others.Then again there are people who like Genesis but not Yes and vice versa. If someone does not like GG I would advise them to steer away from bands who are just as unconventional(ie RIO/avant)if not more so. You might come around to it at some point; then again you may not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tapfret Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 10:45
Yep, 20 years ago I would never thought I would enjoy Argentine tango. But because I loved Bondage Fruit I started picking up other projects with guitarist Kido Natsuki until I found Salle Gaveau. Now I freaking love Astor Piazzolla.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2019 at 10:31
It's all kind of like your palate for food.  If you don't like it when you're six, try it again at 16 and it might surprise you and then 60, if you're lucky enough to get that far.  Or not.  I like Tapfret's and Grumpyprogfan's posts here...I have to say the same, some that my ear doesn't care for now may be much more listenable in the future, I'll give it another try, especially if people keep recommending it whose other recommendations I've enjoyed (get to know your reviewers), when introduced by them.  I think it's commendable to at least try!

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