Rush vs Led Zeppelin

EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote: ProgMetaller2112 wrote: Atavachron wrote: I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed.   Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.   But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s).   Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something.   Many artists are guilty of this.   Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things;  they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed.   Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did--  the best way to steal music is to make the song your own enough so that no one notices.   The Beatles did it well. The Beatles plagiarized and stole people's music or is that a joke? Can't tell if you are joking 😂😂😂 The Beatles stole heaps, have you heard the tune they ripped "Get Back" from Little Queenie By Chuck Berry, as did Humble Pie with Natural born Boogie both same base tune...... Accused of exploiting other artists' songs in the Beatles, John Lennon defended himself by saying, "It wasn't a rip-off; it was a love-in." Paul McCartney's take: "We pinch as much from other people as they pinch from us." 1. "Revolution": Pee Wee Crayton, "Do Unto Others" 2. "Come Together": Chuck Berry, "You Can't Catch Me" 3. "I Feel Fine": Bobby Parker, "Watch Your Step" 4. "I Saw Her Standing There": Chuck Berry, "I'm Talking About You" 5. "Lady Madonna": Humphrey Lyttelton, "Bad Penny Blues"

ProgMetaller2112 wrote: Atavachron wrote: I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed.   Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.   But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s).   Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something.   Many artists are guilty of this.   Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things;  they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed.   Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did--  the best way to steal music is to make the song your own enough so that no one notices.   The Beatles did it well. The Beatles plagiarized and stole people's music or is that a joke? Can't tell if you are joking 😂😂😂

Rush, but I love Led Zep too.

^Really, fandom again..............

Even thru Zep ripped off a lot of songs including Stairway I voted for them

I don't think Led Zeppelin has aged as well as Rush has. Don't get me wrong, I love them...but I think Rush may just edge them out in my opinion.

LED ZEPPELIN, the best hard rock band ever!

HarbouringTheSoul wrote: Actually, that is an Oscar Wilde quote and it goes: "Talent borrows, genius steals." As for the Stairway vs. Taurus thing: So the chord sequences in the beginning are similar. Big deal. That doesn't make "Stairway to Heaven" any less of a great song. I agree that not crediting the old blues masters on their first album was very bad judgment on their part, but in this case I would chalk it up to subconscious inspiration.

By the way, Led Zeppelin opened for Spirit on their first US tour in 1969, so that tightens the possible connection between the two songs.  I totally agree (as I posted earlier) that the overall similarity between the two songs is minor at best, though.

Actually, that is an Oscar Wilde quote and it goes: "Talent borrows, genius steals."

As for the Stairway vs. Taurus thing: So the chord sequences in the beginning are similar. Big deal. That doesn't make "Stairway to Heaven" any less of a great song. I agree that not crediting the old blues masters on their first album was very bad judgment on their part, but in this case I would chalk it up to subconscious inspiration.

Atavachron wrote: I have little doubt up about half of Zep's material was influenced by or even taken from other artists, I hear bits from other sources all the time in their stuff that no one has even noticed.   Page and Jones were studio musicians and made a living playing other people's music for years.   But the thing is, I hear lifts in Pink Floyd's music too (often from smaller British bands of the 60s).   Few would disagree, including me, that Floyd were one of the most original acts in rock but that doesn't mean they were immune from influence or even borrowing something.   Many artists are guilty of this.   Zeppelin's problem was aggravated by several things;  they'd gotten too big to let the obvious poaching, or in some cases simply un-crediting, go unnoticed.   Also they didn't well conceal their theft like others did--  the best way to steal music is to make the song your own enough so that no one notices.   The Beatles did it well.

Buddy Guy wrote: Good musicians borrow, great musicians steal.