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chopper 
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 Posted: July 26 2010 at 10:48 |
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I agree with him. There comes a time when all bands should retire gracefully and ELP haven't reached that time (even though they may never play live together again anyway). All things considered, last night was a pretty damn fine performance.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 10:43 |
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^Don't agree with anything you say.
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JD
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 10:38 |
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Please don't defend them, and it wasn't meant as a flame by the way. But as stated previously, I have a long history with this band as do many others here. Time marches on. I was just thinking though, why isn't it acceptable for these 'ageing' prog masters to write great music and let the younger more limber musicians of today play the works. I mean isn't that what the classical masters did (of the ones that lived longer than 30 I mean)?  |
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 10:28 |
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Lake's voice has changed in tone and he doesn't have the range he did (which is normal for singers of his age) but I wouldn't say his voice was "weak" yesterday. Fair point about Emerson, he can't do the faster runs but he has had wrist/hand problems. I actually thought Palmer was pretty impressive yesterday. We have to realise that "Welcome Back My Friends..." is over 30 years ago now, we can't expect these bands to be the same nowadays.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 09:56 |
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^^^ Fair comments, from someone who knows ELP a whole lot better than I do.
To be fair, all the prog bands of old have had their glory days. They'll always have an audience of appreciators young and old, as this forum clearly shows, but it's down to te next generation to keep the flag flying. I've never been a huge ELP fan, but as I expected, they delievered the goods and knocked me out yesterday. I'm just glad I got to see them, before they turned it in for good. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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JD
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 09:18 |
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Well, as a long time ELP fan I must say...they really don't need to play live anymore. The arrangement shows how much each musician must now comprise in order to play their own tunes. Lakes voice is weak, Carl avoids the 'fills' that helped define not only his style but in some ways the genre itself, and Keith, well his runs aren't as fast or accurate s those of years past.
I'm sure all in all it must have been a great show all weekend anyway, and while I'd still like to hear some new original 'studio' material from them I can't see myself shelling out too much payola oif they were to tour in my area. Long Live ELP and RIP as well. |
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:57 |
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Here's a bit of Karn Evil 9 from yesterday!
ELP Karn Evil 9 Edited by Blacksword - July 26 2010 at 07:58 |
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:27 |
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I was still on my way home when you posted this.
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:26 |
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Just noticed this on the website where you can order the CD of ELP's show -
"To all fans who purchased a copy of ELP's live set at High Voltage Festival, there is 2 minutes of audio drop out on track 2 of disc 1. This is because some stupid Roadie pulled out all of the recording leads by accident at the beginning of the set and we lost the feed!!"
Was it a roadie, or did Greg Lake stand on the cable and squash it? I was going to make a joke about him being craned onto the stage, but I won't. I was half expecting the crowd to start singin "Who ate all the pies" though.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:13 |
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Yeah, Steve didn't play for long enough, which is a real shame. He sounded fantastic, and the little section of Los Endos really made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I was pleasantly surprised by Uriah Heep too. I dont know anything about them, but I think I'll probably invest in the 'Demons & Wizards (?)' album. Alan, I cant describe the dissapointment as I heard ELP go into 'Fanfare..' as I had to leave the park. I thought they were superb. The sound was so clear, and they haven't lost their chops with age. I'd go and see them again like a shot. |
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 06:35 |
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You forgot Steve Hackett - who was absolutely awesome but only played for half an hour. We couldn't understand why when most other bands got an hour.
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chopper
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 06:33 |
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Sorry Andy, I wasn't joking.
 It was a great ending.Yep it was great day. Despite some moans about announcing the bill and the set times, it was well organised. No queues either to get in or for food/beer. The sound was excellent for all bands, the only real fault was that the Metal and Prog stages were too close together so the sound from the Metal stage could be heard during the quiet bits on the prog stage (e.g. Wishbone Ash's "Leaf and Stream") - it even affected Opeth during their quieter moments (they were awesome, btw). The other downer (apart from the Jaegermeister) was the
 insectst that stared biting me during the Down set. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 05:01 |
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I would love top have met you guys.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 25 2010 at 19:38 |
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^^^Oh, and we had the pleasure of meeting JemJem714..
Hope you had a good day, Jem, and got back safely. |
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 25 2010 at 19:32 |
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Just got back...
Chopper & I had a great day. We saw The Reasoning, Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, Opeth, Down, a bit of Clutch, and of course ELP who I thought were absolutely superb. I had to miss the end because of train catching issues..  Alan said I didn't miss much, just cannons, fireworks and keyboard stabbing  I'm not yet sure if he was joking they were just finishing 'Pictures..' and going into 'Fanfare..' as I skulked out of Victoria Park, cursing public transport. I caught most of the show though, including a fine performance of Tarkus! Edited by Blacksword - July 25 2010 at 19:33 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 25 2010 at 16:48 |
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Bit early yet.
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aapatsos
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Posted: July 25 2010 at 16:44 |
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still no reviews of the shows? the crowd is waiting...
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 10:42 |
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Could be a problem if he has to bolt them though...
"Ooooh, what a lucky man he +++buuuuurpppp+++ was..." Seriously though - even though I believe the organisers are doing their level best to rip off the punters @ HV, I hope everyone who goes has a great one & I really hope ELP pull out all the stops & put in a great gig 
Have fun, people! |
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chopper
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 08:39 |
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Ooh, cruel.
Surely he can fit in a quick pie during the keyboard and drum solos.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 08:35 |
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Not to mention factoring in at leat 3/4 pie-breaks for Greg Lake
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High Voltage Festival,Victoria Park, London July10
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