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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 20:21 | ||
I see that in John Paul Jones album (the 2001 album) plays also Adam Bomb!
I see Adam Bomb in concert... Great Singer/ axeman and Bomb musical style is a pure Glam Metal... In that concert Adam Bomb plays in support to Anoy Rocks! I have two Cd and one MC atographed by himself!!!
Great music... Adam Bomb!!!
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 06:55 | ||
Because this is a great band from Slovenija I recommended (with the help of my review):
The only problem with this band is coming from Slovenia, or better, I guess that comes from the Former Yugoslavia. More precisely from Ljubljana. This has not contributed to international success of Oko, made up of Pavel Kavec (guitar, vocals), Tone Dimnik (drums) and Franjo Martinec (bass). Others do not know, except that this Raskorak is 1976. The CD is a production of Pavel Kavec of December 1998. Music can be defined as heavy prog psychedelic symphonic, at times similar to Eloy 'Dawn', 'Rocka Rolla' of Judas Priest of 'Saxon' of Saxon, stretches sufficiently close to Hawkwind (although only as a concept, although 'Hej Mala' will use the effects of laser shots that make 100% Hawkwind!). Other times are totally heavy Rock, other times blues (obviously have heard the Bijelo Dugme in the composition of 'Sam Sam', blues ballad, all sung in falsetto).
See here and there I can say that the intro of the songs (where they can define these) are very psychedelic. Then the songs become very heavy rock, as linear in the performance. The many drums fill and use of rhythms other than 4 / 4 shall include Oko in Prog field. 'Hoces Li Sa Mnom' presents all these elements and could be a song of Eloy. Unfortunately, the recording is not optimal and that, while he ruined the production, has helped to make the songs even more powerful. Clearly, if that synthesizers are put into the second floor and thus the funky heavy rock 'Sve Sam Ti Dao' loses the minimum sinfonicity making it too similar to a demo version. Things that I like very much! With regard to the Prog trials, in the case of this CD they are all enclosed in 'Theme IV', good funky jazz. At this point it should be said that the CD seems product using the original master, even if 'Baj Baj' seems poured on this CD from an acetate. Special moment of 'Raskorak' CD are the 5 bonus track! Even outside from Great Britain this is who was kept tapes of radio and TV appearances so that they can reuse a day. Thus 2 songs are from television appearances and 3 by radio session, of course from Slovenian Radio and TV . In conclusion... 'Raskorak' is certainly not a CD that blasts in the armchair. However 'Raskorak' is a CD that makes us go an hour of pleasure in listening to good music. What is also sufficiently technical, well written and well arranged, as well as designed really well. |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 06:51 | ||
This is true... This is the problem... !!!
Because you see... More I listening to Led Zep... More I realize that they are excellent in Heavy Prog ... But even this is only my observation ... Only one of my precise ideas about Heavy Prog genre ... What I say here and I want to clarify ... Without other intents!
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:37 | ||
That is true, and the same, I suppose, is true for the likes of Babe Ruth. I hope you understand that I don't want to stir anything up here, just to respond to people who share my opinion. We have had enough proof that some members can't behave civilly when faced by something unexpected, and the last thing I need now is to deal with a PA uprising.
Edited by Raff - October 26 2008 at 03:37 |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:24 | ||
^ this band was added well before Heavy Prog existed - when it was part of ArtRock - and there is no guarantee Lucifer's Friend would have been added now
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 02:58 | ||
But... Well... This album is a photocopy of DP style! I agree with you Raff! Or we consider DP Heavy Prog or is it better to consider DP only a Heavy Rock / Hard Rock band!
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 02:36 | ||
Pablo, moving DP to Heavy Prog would result in a lot of unrest here on the forums. When I suggested the move last year, I was told that I wanted to 'rewrite history' (perish the thought!), and at present I can't take any hassle. However, yesterday was listening to the Lucifer's Friend samples available on this site, and couldn't help wondering why they are listed as HP, and DP are not. They certainly didn't sound that different. Oh, well, I suppose that's life for you.... Sometimes you have to accept that certain things just aren't going to happen.
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The Quiet One
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
Posted: October 25 2008 at 18:54 | ||
Yeah, Deep Purple can really be considered Heavy Prog. Fireball, Machine Head, Burn, Come Taste the Band(Heavy Funk Prog, lol). |
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cannibalcam
Forum Newbie Joined: November 05 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 10 |
Posted: October 25 2008 at 17:38 | ||
everyone has forgot to mention czar. the first 2 tunes on that album are heavy and catchy as sh*t. the rest can be thrown out.
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big.mo
Forum Groupie Joined: October 13 2008 Location: Roma - Italy Status: Offline Points: 47 |
Posted: October 24 2008 at 11:02 | ||
Hi there!
I would like to focus the attention on two bands: TOOL and DRAGONFORCE.
The first is a wonderful example of post metal-prog, dark and blue enough to make people think about different sounds and the beauty of them. Listen to them many and many times as they are quite tough and not easy at all. And after that try to get them out of your mind if you can!
The second is a perfect reprentative of power metal with a noteworthy harmonic part, despite thousands beats per minute, and epic lyrics which can easily been included in a prog rock contest. Listen to them as well and you will see.
Cheers
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 24 2008 at 03:50 | ||
And... This is... Well... An extreme big problem of modern society !
Personally, I had many doubts about the presence of Metallica in PA. But I must say that Metallica are not so distant from some Prog Metal... We can stay in PA... Metallica are not so out of place... Of course, in Prog Related! |
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Alberto Muñoz
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:29 | ||
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Jared
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 19327 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 05:55 | ||
which is why we need your wisdom, maturity and steadying influence around here, Raff....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Raff
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 05:47 | ||
Seen the reactions to Metallica's addition, I'm afraid further metal additions to prog-related are not likely to happen soon. Unfortunately, it seems there are lots of people around who aren't capable of expressing disagreement without resorting to name-calling or personal attacks.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 05:18 | ||
Nevermore is metal anyway.. certainly not suitable for heavy prrog.
They aren't really all that progressive for the most part, but their music shows a clear nod to progressive influences. Seeing them in prog related would be cool (also considering the fact many prog metal bands cite them as an influence), but wouldn't be surprised if they were rejected for that. That said, I think This Godless Endeavour was the best metal album to be released in 2005 (yes. even beating prog metal releases IMO). And Jeff Loomis... a big influence on my playing. |
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 04:56 | ||
^ real decent band, they were not accepted by ProgMetal and I can't say they really fit HevyProg but I'll run it by the guys
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 04:46 | ||
Just listening to the Jeff Loomis solo album 'Zero Order Phase'. One phantastic album!
Before I charge ahead and suugest them: Do you agree on adding Nevermore to PA?
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 03:31 | ||
to be added soon ! |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: October 23 2008 at 03:08 | ||
BUMP
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: October 20 2008 at 06:57 | ||
^No.
And reasons later. Going to bed soonish. |
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