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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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hahahhahahhahahhaha... sorry... but ... hahahhahhaha. damn.. .that is what they call in some campaigns.. .the straight-talk express ![]() in lieu of a medal... have 5 clappies.. a masterpiece of progarchives put-downs ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by micky - February 05 2008 at 11:30 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Actually, MikeEnRegalia linked me to their myspace page yesterday. I quite enjoyed what I heard
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Also check out his contribution to the heavy metal- Indo-jazz fusion on Jonas Hellborg's latest Art Metal.
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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^ Nice video, hilarious too!
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21596 |
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Mattias Eklundh demonstrating his technique(s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq0xvSJojw (hilarious to watch, not only for guitarists!) |
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Reverie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 14 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 626 |
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ding ding ding
There are heaps of guys who make me think "how the #&$% could i pull that off?", but that's mainly because i'm not a very technically accomplished guitarist
![]() Holdsworth on the other hand just completely boggles my mind when i watch him play. It's not just "how would i play something like that?", it's "how can anybody play something like that?"
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Mattias IA Eklundh is a worthy mention IMO. Incredibly versatile, fantastic tapping technique and other worldly phrasing are just some things to mention about him. Also notable is his strange technique he uses to produce harmonics, leading some people to falsely believe the sound is in fact produced with a Digitech Whammy. As well as his solo stuff, check out the band Freak Kitchen for Eklundh's rather alien playing style
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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My wife turned me on to Tuck and Patti, not strictly prog but still quite good. ![]() Santana's Europa gets my vote as one of the most beautiful prog songs of all time. Edited by Slartibartfast - February 04 2008 at 14:14 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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By the way, which guitarist can piss the highest? It's probably been mentioned already, but Steve Morse is one of the best when it comes to technique and speed. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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heyitsthatguy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
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I think John Petrucci can piss pretty damned high
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Utah Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 14 2007 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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WHOA...I forgot to add Jean Baptiste "Django" Reinhardt ! ! ! And remember, his left hand was deformed & still played remarkably ! ! ! From WikiPedia: Many musicians have expressed admiration for Reinhardt, including: Jimmy McCulloch, Julian Bream; Chet Atkins, Carlos Santana; B.B. King; Jerry Garcia; Tony Iommi; Jimi Hendrix; Shawn Lane; Stevie Ray Vaughan; Derek Trucks; Mark Knopfler; Les Paul; Joe Pass; Peter Frampton; Denny Laine; Jeff Beck; Jon Larsen; Steve Howe; Charlie Christian; George Benson; Wes Montgomery; Martin Taylor; Tchavolo Schmitt; Stochelo Rosenberg; Biréli Lagrène; John Jorgenson; Michael Angelo Batio; Richard Thompson; Robert Fripp; and Jeff Martin. . . Edited by Utah Man - February 04 2008 at 12:31 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Another shredder often overlooked, that i forgot to mention that fortunately MikeEnRegalia picked up on, is Eric Johnson. One of the most memorable moments for me from the G3: Live in Concert DVD from Eric Johnson's setlist, was not even his fast and furious moments, but an often forgotten trademark of his style that he displayed in SRV: his uncanny ability to hit exactly the right frequency of pinched harmonic that he desires. But of course other components of his style that are unforgettable, like his string skipping licks, and his crazy wide intervallic ideas, and always done in good taste too, IMO. The Austin City Limits version of Cliffs of Dover is brilliant, and some say it even surpasses the studio version ( I have not heard the studio version in about 2 months, so I wont make a judgement on that for the time being.) A tone to die for, excellent sense of phrasing, and a great vibrato.
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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which is how most people view your posts. With your consummate skill on drums and piano and your taste-defining appreciation of music one wonders why you haven't taken the musical world by storm. |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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When double bass drum kits came available a lot of impressive rock and jazz drummers bought and used them: Moon, Baker, Hiseman, Mitchell - not a gimmick rather fulfilling a need at that time? Edited by Dick Heath - February 03 2008 at 08:57 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Another thing I cannot stress the importance of enough when you listen to a shredding part, stop trying to over analyse each individual note ( I admit i still do that, but i generally do that after i have listened to something before and say, want to analyse the song or learn how to play it, but normally I just listen for the joy of music). Vai, Satch and others, when they play, I doubt they consciously think about every note in a fast run. Instead, I'm sure they see the fast run holistically, as a complete phrase, which is exactly what I hear and that is because that is what makes sense to the ear. If it didn't communicate something to me, if it really was just a meaningless blur of notes, I wouldn't enjoy it, because music is about expression. And when it come to expression on the guitar, I personally think the hard work and hours the true virtuosos have put in has paid off, their reward being able to express the deepest and most meaningful feelings, and really, as many emotions/feelings as they want to. Edited by HughesJB4 - February 03 2008 at 08:33 |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21596 |
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^ quite true. A good example of what you're describing is Joe Satriani's Satch Boogie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzQb79IhoRE What I mean is the fast tapping middle section. To some it may just be a flurry mess, but in fact there's a simple underlying melody (played by the tapping finger) which gives meaning to the part. The key is to be able to play the whole section with the focus on that melody, with the additional notes as an "embellishment", sort of like a combination of pedal tone and arpeggio. Edited by MikeEnRegalia - February 03 2008 at 07:58 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Steve Vai playing slow? Not only can he play at blistering pace, I think Vai, Satch and Buckethead, to name just a few show just how their range of technique can let them play with just as much emotion slow as they fast. This is where having so much technique can come into play. Say we have David Gilmour, great player, well known for writing memorable melodic solos you can sing, soulful, and understandably, a hero to many. But what happens if he wants to express something more complex with the guitar? He wont be able too. Not only can Satch, Vai, Buckethead (again, to name a few), play slow, controlled and with soul, they can play fast, controlled and with soul. The emotions that come from a passionate fast flurry of notes, has a totally different feeling/emotion or set of emotions/feelings, than playing slowly does. Sometimes, though hard to believe from some, but I'm sure MikeEnRegalia will understand what I'm talking about, it's the fastest note flurries in a song that can be what brings me to tears and takes me somewhere else beautiful. It took me a while to get to this stage, but once you start becoming a shred guitarist yourself, you open up your ears to the sheer beauty and passion of playing fast.
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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I am not hateful towards the musicians, I just can't take them seriously if they repeat a gimmick over and over again. And I am definitely not hateful towards their fans. I may wonder about their taste, but I am pretty sure people wonder about mine too. But I agree: The discussion is fruitless, so I will refrain from it. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21596 |
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@Angelo: Yes you're right, it makes no sense to continue the discussion on that level ... it's off topic anyway.
@BaldFriede: I'm not trying to convince you of double bass drumming or any other technique you don't like. I'm merely irritated by your hateful and insulting attitude towards the musicians and their fans. Please remember that they're not responsible for what happened to you. And FYI: I don't think that open-mindedness is defined by how many different styles we enjoy ... it's defined by how we deal with the styles we don't like. Edited by MikeEnRegalia - February 03 2008 at 07:11 |
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Friede. Mike - as valuable as your opinions are, please keep the discussion civilized. 'Little boys' read this forum as well. There's always the choice of not having your ears insulted by simply pressing the stop button. Thanks.
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