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Rate Your Music doesn't tag Vangelis, Kitaro, or Sade as Rock. No big deal... It tags Holdsworth as progressive rock, and we played Holdsworth constantly IN the 80s.

This rocks...





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2024 at 13:00
^ Vangelis can rock (pretty eclectic artist).

The Dragon is so great.



And so can Kitaro rock, especially with Far East Family Band.

But see this from page one of this thread:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

EDIT: Sorry, forgot it was rock. I've never really been much of a rocker despite liking much music of the rock related or rock fusion variety. Anyway, at the least Midnight Oil would count. But then Sade is mentioned, and I had not thought of Sade as rock.


The Rock, I mean, is in a very broad sense. I coudn't think of a better term. Smile



I'd say that most of what has been mentioned is at least sufficient rock related enough for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2024 at 11:29
Are Kitaro, Sade, and Vangelis rock?

I would like to mention there was a lot of good fusion in the 80s.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.

Giorgio Moroder's score for The Cat People is fantastic and that's one I still listen to. The synth tones are gorgeous. The music is evocative and transporting. I dig the movie, too. The '80s was a swell time for electronic soundtracks (and movies, duh).

Midnight Oil's cool. I should listen to them more. Same for Gary Numan.


The 80s is so cool for music in the 80s. John Carpenter (I adore Escape From New York), Wendy Carlos for Tron....


TRON is fantastic, as is Carlos' official OOP release of Clockwork Orange (the entirely electronic version). I'm glad I have the CDs because Carlos orders all uploads to be taken down if they're not cover versions.

More of Carpenter's "killer" scores: Christine, The Fog and Prince of Darkness (probably my favorite).


Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

And now a couple of artists in PA who had work in the 80s that I loved in the 80s and still like: Kitaro and Vangelis.


Kitaro's early works are breathtaking. Ki, Astral Trip and Oasis blew me away way back when.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.


What made the big diff between Sade and the rest of women-oriented pop is that Sade was a real band (stable line-up too) that took their singer's middle name as their band's name. I didn't know this back then, though, but obviously I'd subconsciously heard the difference and these guys had musicianship at least equal to Level 42 (but I never those dude's music).


Yes, Sade is the band's name, and I go out of my way to refer to their music and not her music, which confuses 9/10 people.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

However, TBH, by their second album (TBH, only the debut is really interesting, IMHO), they'd said everything they had to say... the rest was more of the same.


Yes and no. They were kind of locked in, which is no doubt why the intervals between albums grew longer. They're very consistent but they had some fine songs on subsequent albums. The upbeat "Paradise" from Stronger than Pride became yet another concert highlight.

While the band was "resting" in the '90s, the three guys attempted a formula tweak with other vocalists (they called themselves Sweetback) and gained little momentum outside England.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


No, I listened to everything Tangerine Dream had released up to that point, with Rubycon, Stratosfear, Encore, Sorcerer and Force Majeure spending plenty of time in the player.

My favorite album by Vangelis back then was Albedo 0.39, which was released in 1976.

Oh, and Rush. Played them a lot.
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I was born in 70 so I really missed being into music in the 70s except for the Beatles who I was into around age 8. I got into top 40/pop music at around 11 1/2 in late 81 and finally got into rock in late 82. I was a a teenager in the 80s but by 1984 or so I was getting more into classic rock/prog and less into what was current at the time. I think Led Zeppelin was the first band who I got into who weren't current since they broke up about 3 or 4 years before I got into them. After that Yes then Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Pink Floyd and others. I think the 90s is a better decade for music but the 80s were probably more "fun."
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I wish this forum had sub-threads so when you get multiple posts responding to a specific post, it would keep them all in order better.

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


I think some have misunderstood the OP and just listed favorite 80s albums. 


Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?


LOL


Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I'm surely cheered up, Hrychu. Thumbs Up



THE original post has since been edited (not sure what was changed), I had not thought that there were any pre-80s albums in David's list originally (now one), but I had interpreted this topic as albums from the 80s that you liked in the 80s and still like today. {EDIT: I had thought that I had read the original post carefully, but had neglected the rock expectation. Had the examples not been from the 80s of David's albums then I would have made different inferences when interpreting the the topic. We often learn "by example"}.

I became a teen in the 80s, and most of what I listened to in the 80s was from the 60s and 70s. My friends and I tended to play "classic rock" from the 60s and 70s like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Neil Young, Jethro Tull {EDIT: The Doors, Cream, Jimi Hendrix and Santana were some absolutes faves of mine in the 80s). A lot of other kids were more into newer stuff. I wish that I had discovered more 80s music in the 80s as I think it's a fantastic time for music. And much as i love much 60s and 70s music, I am more interested in sharing and finding out about people's 80s tastes in the 80s (helps to focus the topic for me). And 70s and 60s can feel stale to me since I had explored so very much yet I have been really turned on to plenty of 80s music in the last few years that sounds so fresh to me and incredible. I still do discover plenty of music from lots of decades, by the way.

That said, as an adult in the 90s, I had more opportunity to experience and enjoy live music.

By the way, people often misinterpret my intent even when I have gone to significant efforts to try to be clear (and sometimes misinterpret my jokes as mean-spirited when I don't tend to go for the kind of humour meant to insult, wound, belittle, or make fun of others.) It happens, no big deal. Hopefully we can still appreciate and demonstrate our appreciation for the efforts of people taking the time to respond to our topics even when they get it wrong (provided it's not snarky, condescending, complaining, deliberately rude...).

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Well, in the 80's, the early 70's were totally denigrated, seen as "passé" and uncool. In North Am, Hippies were replaced by Yuppies (often exactly the same age & generation), but Yuppies drove BMW - instead of worn-out VW Combis 
Of course the later-70's weren't, whether punk or Arena/corporate rock (AOR, if you wish), but also reggae and later funk... whatever floated the boat of MTV.

Throughout the '80s, I still had all my music from the '70s (on cassettes + 4 LPs), but I don't remember listening to any of it, even I probably did.

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I was born in 1975, so I was 

* An infant/toddler in the 70s
* in Kindergarten/elementary school in the 80s
* a teenager in the 90s

So my main decade is obviously the 90s. Even though I was already actively listening to music in the 80s, in retrospect they seem almost "prehistoric" to me, only by the end of the 80s I was starting to identify with contemporary music. From the 90s onwards I began to listen to the great rock releases of the 70s, as well as the whole NWOBHM. 
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

From 89 onwards, I kind of returned to rock gradually (more/better albums) with 91/92/93 the return of prog

exactly the same in my case

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?

Well, in the 80's, the early 70's were totally denigrated, seen as "passé" and uncool. In North Am, Hippies were replaced by Yuppies (often exactly the same age & generation), but Yuppies drove BMW - instead of worn-out VW Combis 
Of course the later-70's weren't, whether punk or Arena/corporate rock (AOR, if you wish), but also reggae and later funk... whatever floated the boat of MTV.

To say +/- simply (a shortcut, of course), MTV ruled (read ruined) the 80's for thousands of 70's music fans.

The early-70's only came back in fashion halfway through the 00's. 

Oddly enough the 50's & 60's were not hated as there were revivals like Rockabilly (Stray Carts, Eine Young Cannibals) or the New Romantics fad and even modern psychedelia (Bevis Frond).

However, if RIO was born in the second half of the 70's, it thrived during the 80's, but that was outside the limelight (much like neo-prog). A lot of those albums in my list in page 1 are not bolded out and I discovered in the second half of the 90's. BTW, I only listed the albums above or equal a Gnosis 11 ( out of 15 max, that are +/- considered as a B+ grade) 

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

It took me a long time to properly appreciate Sade, I admit. But I now own a few of the Japanese reissues, so there's that. Diamond Life and Promise are brilliant. I remember when she toured fifteen years ago. Having missed that tour and knowing they probably never will again = major bummer.

What made the big diff between Sade and the rest of women-oriented pop is that Sade was a real band (stable line-up too) that took their singer's middle name as their band's name. I didn't know this back then, though, but obviously I'd subconsciously heard the difference and these guys had musicianship at least equal to Level 42 (but I never those dude's music).

However, TBH, by their second album (TBH, only the debut is really interesting, IMHO), they'd said everything they had to say... the rest was more of the same. 


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I'm surely cheered up, Hrychu. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?

I think some have misunderstood the OP and just listed favorite 80s albums. 
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As someone who was born in the mid 90's, I find it intriguing that all of you who lived in the 80's, had almost no favorite albums from the 70s or earlier at that point. Was older music considered passé or uncool in the 80's, generally speaking?
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

It may look like that person-historical subjects don't have so much interest anymore.
I'm not sure where you're going with that statement and your OP.Confused

Well, that statement is very much my impression from both this thread so far and the former Your top 15 progressive music albums IN the '70s? .

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

in the first part of the 80's, I was introducing myself to JR/F (namely via Caravanserai, Mahavishnu, RTF, 11th House, etc...), partly because I had diminishing returns every new year with pop/rock aired on the radio. Less and less newly-released albums pleased me.

In the second half of the 70's, I got into late-50's/60's/70's jazz - but only skimmed the surface (Mingus Trane Miles, McCoy), but I also disliked the "smooth jazz" of the 80's. From 89 onwards, I kind of returned to rock gradually (more/better albums) with 91/92/93 the return of prog

Thank you very much for these comments, as that kind is not least what I've had in my mind with this thread.


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Ten 80s rock albums, not in any particular order

The Kinks  – Give the People What They Want
Slade – Till Deaf Do Us Part
The Who – Face Dances
Pete Townshend – Empty Glass
Secret Affair – Behind Closed Doors
Bruce Springsteen – The River
Joe Cocker – Sheffield Steel
Graham Parker and The Rumour – The Up Escalator
Graham Parker – Another Grey Area
The Rolling Stones – Tattoo You
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

How is this thread different from this former one?

The former was about present favourite non-Prog albums FROM the '80s, while this one, person-historical, is about one's favourite albums IN the '80s, and that may include pre-'80s albums plus Prog - and if you for instance compare my own lists from these two threads, they're very different, even some albums are in both. 

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