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Big Generator is a bit of a mixed bag. I'm Running, Final Eyes and Shoot High Aim Low compare favorably with anything off of 90125. They are good songs. I personally think Big Generator is more Proggy than 90125. The issue is that the songs selected for radio and MTV play from 90125, Owner, Leave It and It Can Happen are far superior to those selected from Big Generator, Love Will Find a Way and Rhythm of Love. I never got the feeling that the songs from 90125 were overtly poppy. Same can't be said of the tracks from Big Generator selected for radio. 90125 does not have the lows that Big Generator has.

I bought Big Generator upon its initial release in 1987 when I was in college. When I saw 3 of the 8 tracks had love in the title I had an Uh-Oh moment. Was this going to be Journey album? Had Yes shed its prog past like Genesis and was going to be a hit machine?

Rabin has said there are to many Journey moments with Big Generator. Rhythm of Love and Almost Like Love were two songs that Rabin felt were not Yes songs. Rabin disagreed with the horns being added to Almost Like Love and said the song reminded him of Phil Collins song Sussudio. Rabin felt Almost Like Love was a substandard song and should have been left off Big Generator.

Another issue was with Trevor Horn who was producing the album. Jon Anderson thought Big Generator should be more adventurous than 90125. Rabin thought the album could have a number of songs stitched together like what was done on Abbey Road or Uncle Albert/ Admiral Halsey (that would have been interesting). Horn and the label disagreed. Anderson was left out of the writing process by Horn until the songs had taken form.

It's no secret that Anderson and Tony Kaye did not care for Horn. I think the relationship between Horn and Kaye was described as mutual hatred. Lot of infighting with the band caused the album to be delayed. I think this hurt Yes with Big Generator being released nearly 4 years after 90125 missing the striking the iron while hot moment. The infighting eventually caused Horn to leave the Big Generator project toward the end. It was left to Rabin to mix the album at his home studio.

The album cover sucks too.

Nonetheless, while not as successful as 90125, Big Generator went Platinum in the US and Canada and Gold in Japan. Everybody made money.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I haven't played this album in years. I will give my CD a spin now (if I can find it). Smile

I have Big Generator as part of a 5-CD YES box set, bought back in the good old days from FOPP Records (long since closed down) in Nottingham when you could still buy a 5-CD box set in the Original Albums Series for just £10. Smile



Those Original Album Series sets are an absolute bargain. I have bought many of these over the years. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2024 at 05:11
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

I haven't played this album in years. I will give my CD a spin now (if I can find it). Smile

I have Big Generator as part of a 5-CD YES box set, bought back in the good old days from FOPP Records (long since closed down) in Nottingham when you could still buy a 5-CD box set in the Original Albums Series for just £10. Smile




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Yes is my favorite band and The Big Generator is my fifth favorite Yes album. Every song gives me the shivers.  On occasion, Holy Lamb spawns tears. I strain to hear/understand the harmonies in the 2nd half of "I'm Running"...I like it that way.   I've experienced several historical "listening sessions" with this album over the years.  All my non-prog friends love the album.  My husband and I still bond over The Big Generator to this very day. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Octopus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2024 at 04:59
I haven't played this album in years. I will give my CD a spin now (if I can find it). Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I've made no secret that I enjoy this album very much. I listened to it first in the 90s, still enjoy it today. Tongue

I enjoy the album too, but not nearly as much as the previous 90125 album, which was my introduction to YES and one of only two albums I owned on the original vinyl - the other one being Classic YES. Smile
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I've made no secret that I enjoy this album very much. I listened to it first in the 90s, still enjoy it today. Tongue
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Side 2 of the original album is great (tracks 5-8), I prefer them to much of 90125. Not so much of a fan of side 1, apart from Shoot High.
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The 12th YES studio album and a Big Generator of controversy over the years - second only to Tales from Topographic Oceans - with YES going in a more pop-oriented direction which caused divisions in the often Fragile working relationship of the band. Producer Trevor Horn called it quits in the middle of production, leaving Trevor Rabin and Paul DeVilliers to complete production in Los Angeles. There was Talk of Jon Anderson coming Close to the Edge of leaving again too in the ensuing Drama, but he was back on board for the YES re-Union album and tour in 1991. Big Generator features the same YES line-up as the previous 90125 album and despite the difficulties, the album was another Big Generator of revenue, climbing The Ladder of success to reach No. 15 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and No. 17 on the UK album chart. Two singles were released from the album:- Love Will Find a Way and Rhythm of Love, which featured quite possibly one of the worst MTV music videos you've ever seen, so I'll spare you that by not posting it here. Tongue


YES line-up:- Jon Anderson; Tony Kaye; Trevor Rabin; Chris Squire; & Alan White

Track Listing

1. Rhythm of Love  (4:49)
2. Big Generator  (4:31)
3. Shoot High, Aim Low  (6:59)
4. Almost Like Love  (4:58)
5. Love Will Find a Way  (4:48)
6. Final Eyes  (6:20)
7. I'm Running  (7:34)
8. Holy Lamb  (3:15)



Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 20 2024 at 04:43
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